Will they be deploying the 220’s down to MCO or FLL in the coming years?

Hard to say. 2 years ago I was told that was the plan by a CP. Now, who knows. Someone my have more updated info on that.

They're going to have to do something. They want desperately to close the 190 MCO base. Problem is they can’t afford the training meltdown that will cause along with their “900 new hires” BS that they have hopes and dreams they will get in the door at OSC. There are some very senior pilots on the 190 in MCO…even in the right seat that will be causing domino effect displacements system wide. Putting the 220 in MCO would likely attract them without causing a major displacement and the meltdown they saw with LA as MCO pilots deal with flying the 190 for QOL down there.

This is the company’s dilemma.

The need to close mco190 but they can’t spare the training resources to make it happen.

Everything will become much more clear the first week of august.(pending a real resolution on spirit first)


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Maybe. Don’t forget that they can just be super conservative on the system bid and use supplemental bids to work out their numbers later.

ill bet we don’t see anything too fancy this august when they have the system bid. If I were JB I’d just run big negative numbers to prevent pilots transferring/upgrading in MCO.

Assuming B6/NK happens they will handle the real fireworks with a MOAB after the SLI is hammered out. Probably see all of the 190 bases officially closed at that point.

This standoff between B6/NK/F9 will definitely effect the August Annual Bid. I would imagine normally they would have the planning numbers all set by now, one month to go.

Will it? I tend to think any M&A and integration wouldn’t happen in enough time for this bid to affect anything one way or the other. I think regardless of the merger, they want to park the 190s faster than previously publicly stated. The block hours in the last several months have been down something like 10% each month across the 190 fleet. I bet we see a large amount of 190 position decreases to naturally shrink the 190 bases with no backfills. Then if necessary displace out in a supplemental. But with 21 220s being delivered next year, and 11 321s (5 of which are LRs needing additional FOs), I think there will be enough new vacancies and people bidding off the 190 to take care of it naturally for now…with MCO being the exception.

The August bid is for 2023. I have a hard time believing anything substantial would be affected by acquiring NK in 2023. Would be end of 2023 for DOJ approval and a JCBA, much less a arbitration SLI and merging any part of the operation.

Could be wrong but next year seems irrelevant to B6 staffing with respect to NK.

We already have 4 190’s Parked, that haven’t flown in about a month. They have kept it real quiet about those.

Basically already shrinking the fleet just through natural attrition and less new hire FO’s to the fleet


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