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Quote: Sun Country got 5 hrs in their last contract. Cant we do better than that? That's pretty sad

6 hrs min day. Over nights pay 1.3 per day which is 15 hr 2 dat trips. Very simple to calculate. Oh, and if the tip is scheduled to duty off after monight (arrive in base after 2345) it generates another day and the 1.3 kicks in.
if you can get 6 that’s great. We also get 10 hours if you do a trip get day rest and do another duty period in the same day. It’s not normal but you see that occasionally. Pays 5 minimum for each. Training pay 75 hours a month from day 1. Insurance from day one.
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Quote: I'd love to know what is industry standard on CBT's. That threatening email from KS about being pulled from flying unpaid unless i work in my own time on their requirements was enough for me to hit send on one of my apps. More going next week. maybe I wont get hired somewhere else but from here on in it won't be for lack of trying.

When they are loosing guys, why on earth would they seek to **** off the ones on property? Maury is an idiot. And his minions are pretty despicable.
the ones Kim sent the email about are the two we are actually paid for, which is why she could be so threatening about them…. This email normally gets sent every year. I wait for it because it tells me the ones I actually need to do so I can skip all the other garbage
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Quote: the ones Kim sent the email about are the two we are actually paid for, which is why she could be so threatening about them…. This email normally gets sent every year. I wait for it because it tells me the ones I actually need to do so I can skip all the other garbage
But are we actually paid for those? I only remember getting crap pay for RGS ones, never remember getting paid for Hazmat or FRMP.
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Quote: But are we actually paid for those? I only remember getting crap pay for RGS ones, never remember getting paid for Hazmat or FRMP.
Yes, Andrew mentioned on facebook we do get paid for these.
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Quote: I'd love to know what is industry standard on CBT's. That threatening email from KS about being pulled from flying unpaid unless i work in my own time on their requirements was enough for me to hit send on one of my apps. More going next week. maybe I wont get hired somewhere else but from here on in it won't be for lack of trying.

When they are loosing guys, why on earth would they seek to **** off the ones on property? Maury is an idiot. And his minions are pretty despicable.
Um, cause they are required by the FAA nimrod! So do them so you dont dequal.
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Quote: I'd love to know what is industry standard on CBT's. That threatening email from KS about being pulled from flying unpaid unless i work in my own time on their requirements was enough for me to hit send on one of my apps. More going next week. maybe I wont get hired somewhere else but from here on in it won't be for lack of trying.

When they are loosing guys, why on earth would they seek to **** off the ones on property? Maury is an idiot. And his minions are pretty despicable.
it’s in the unions PDF and you can compare it. You can also google “southwest contract compare” or United “contract compare pdf” or any “Arline union with a backbone compare pdf” and it will show the Penny's allegiant is paid.

Unfortunately it’s so bad at Allegiant. A new contract should have a requirement that required CBT’s (including new hires) are posted 3months prior to their due date with the pay amount included and a clause for no zero pay CBT allows.

Company will prob just say it’s not computer based training but iPad training and not pay you.

which is why work rules matter
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Quote: Um, cause they are required by the FAA nimrod! So do them so you dont dequal.
Do you feel better now for the 'Nimrod' comment? Are you that kind of stupid? See, its easy to insult! Your posts remind me so much of the dumbest Fo in the company who sticks his head out all the time on the union page.

I did not receive notification of the requirement for those courses in accordance with the contract. I had been on to the university just 2 weeks earlier to complete RGS cbt's, and the only courses at that point were People Services courses, and I am not working for free. Do you? if so there is a special place for you in MG's behind and in hell.

So quit being snarky and judgmental, work according to our terrible contract, and don't work for free.
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Quote: Do you feel better now for the 'Nimrod' comment? Are you that kind of stupid? See, its easy to insult! Your posts remind me so much of the dumbest Fo in the company who sticks his head out all the time on the union page.

I did not receive notification of the requirement for those courses in accordance with the contract. I had been on to the university just 2 weeks earlier to complete RGS cbt's, and the only courses at that point were People Services courses, and I am not working for free. Do you? if so there is a special place for you in MG's behind and in hell.

So quit being snarky and judgmental, work according to our terrible contract, and don't work for free.
Quote: Um, cause they are required by the FAA nimrod! So do them so you dont dequal.
You could make a TV series with the amount of drama in our pilot group. I would love to see a comparison of all the airlines on bickering amongst the group, we'd finally lead the pack at something! It's the same 5 guys here and the same 10 guys on Facebook. The rest of us are convinced at this point that you all could be handed the golden ticket and still find a way to b*tch about it. We're home every night, I'm sure you can find some kind of hobby to keep yourselves entertained.
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Quote: You could make a TV series with the amount of drama in our pilot group. I would love to see a comparison of all the airlines on bickering amongst the group, we'd finally lead the pack at something! It's the same 5 guys here and the same 10 guys on Facebook. The rest of us are convinced at this point that you all could be handed the golden ticket and still find a way to b*tch about it. We're home every night, I'm sure you can find some kind of hobby to keep yourselves entertained.
Typical post from a person with low intelligence, skills, or ambition. 24th post from this troll account of his.

Yes. Just shut shut up and be happy you're home every night people. You heard it here first. Why even have a union? "Greyhound89" is happy and you should be too.

You're right about one thing though. I'm convinced every post here is the same 10 people with multiple accounts. Because that's the only way you can get anyone to agree with you is yourself. The low post counts and familiar arguments tell the story.
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Quote: Typical post from a person with low intelligence, skills, or ambition. 24th post from this troll account of his.

Yes. Just shut shut up and be happy you're home every night people. You heard it here first. Why even have a union? "Greyhound89" is happy and you should be too.

You're right about one thing though. I'm convinced every post here is the same 10 people with multiple accounts. Because that's the only way you can get anyone to agree with you is yourself. The low post counts and familiar arguments tell the story.

Ah, here we go again. Did I hurt your feelings? Low intelligence, skills and ambition? Man oh man you're going for the diggers. It's funny, not once did I insinuate that we should be happy with the contract we have, it's absolutely embarrassing. Never once did I insinuate that we would do better without a union. However, IBT is really testing that. All I did was make a statement along the lines of quit b*tching online and do something better with your lives. It's truly comical how frazzled you gentleman get on here. The second somebody says something you don't like, it's the same 5 insults. But you're right, it's me who lacks the intelligence right?
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