Outrageous. Crew detained in DR - Page 2 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

#11

Dubh , 05-05-2022 08:24 PM

Not home.

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

The article doesn't make clear where the pilots currently are?? They were released on bail but are they still in the country unable to leave?? Very scary.

One of my fears has always been to find myself in a foreign jail. F~ck....

How about a Turkish prison?

#12

symbian simian , 05-05-2022 08:48 PM

Line holder

Yeah, I am generally not the "send the marines" guy. I can see it with some dodgy corporate operation, but 121 pilots?!?!
There's no way they would not be prosecuted in Canada or the USA if there was any evidence they were guilty of anything, no reason to keep them there.

#13

OpenClimb , 05-05-2022 08:49 PM

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If this was a Frontier crew, they'd have their pay docked and a Section 19 hearing waiting for them for missing trips while they're jailed. There's no way in H E [ [ that API could source alternate accommodations in a timely manner. This is one reason why I do almost anything necessary to avoid flying international with Frontier. It's tough enough to get a hotel in Vegas for non-scheduled ops. I can't imagine trying to do it in a far-away place where I don't speak the language.

#14

Bahamasflyer , 05-05-2022 10:19 PM

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I completely get what y'all saying, but, everyone is dodging the question.....

WHY, WHY are 121 pilots....(at least those no longer on probation) accepting these flights, until this is closed and shut??? As one guy pointed out, this is not the first time this has happened in the DR.

The RLA does NOT apply here, despite what some people claim or allude to. The RLA's intent was preventing job actions related to contract negioations, not a situation such as this.

WHY AREN'T ALL 121 PILOTS REFUSING TO FLY THERE UNTIL THIS IS DONE WITH?

HELLO ALPA......WAKE THE F UP

GROW A F'ING PAIR

#15

dualinput , 05-06-2022 01:42 AM

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This article has zero details. We have no idea what happened. Impossible to form any opinions based on a couple of paragraphs with no substance.

#16

Andy , 05-06-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer

The pilots who were detained were neither ALPA nor 121 pilots.

I haven't flown in/out of DR in more than two decades, but sure, I'll join your DR boycott.

#17

CAirBear , 05-06-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

the same thing happened about 10-15 years back to a US based cargo airline flying the Shorts 330 or 360 into the DR.

both pilots were jailed for a long time. The company spent a lot of money to free them. I think they even had to get Congress to help them

Im friends with him. We flew together at the regionals. Absolutely INSANE story. Not sure how the hell he hasn’t gotten an episode of “Locked up Abroad” yet.

#18

Margaritaville , 05-06-2022 05:46 AM

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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Originally Posted by Andy

This kind of stuff used to go on all of the time with Eastern airlines.

The lesson here is if you suspect that there's drugs on your aircraft, fly home and coordinate enroute to have customs drug dogs meet the aircraft. Pointing that kind of stuff out in a foreign country where it's the wild wild west is not the smartest move. I'm not a smart guy, but I'm always willing to learn from what happens to others.

This. Anyone who has ever flown freight from Latin America knows this. There are ways to discreetly notify everyone after airborne and you deal with it on US soil. Generally they quarantine the aircraft and watch who comes to get the dope then bust the whole ring.

#19

rickair7777 , 05-06-2022 06:12 AM

Prime Minister/Moderator

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

Reagan would have got them home by now. One way or another.

#20

rickair7777 , 05-06-2022 06:18 AM

Prime Minister/Moderator

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Originally Posted by Andy

The lesson here is if you suspect that there's drugs on your aircraft, fly home and coordinate enroute to have customs drug dogs meet the aircraft. Pointing that kind of stuff out in a foreign country where it's the wild wild west is not the smartest move. I'm not a smart guy, but I'm always willing to learn from what happens to others.

Little problem there... how do you know it's drugs and not something a wee bit more hazardous? Yeah I know, if you're in latin america it's going to be drugs but are you going to take the chance? It would also be hard to explain that you knowingly departed with unknown contraband onboard.

Maybe call in sick and catch the first flight back to CONUS?