+1. It's the new way of governance they are embracing. F consensus building, that is hard. Just purge everyone who doesn't agree with you. And then ignore all advice and run headfirst into the brick wall.

That's a great description of the situation leading up to the failed TA 2023.

This ^^^^

Meh… The poster hijacked the ALPA campaign process for serious MEC Chair candidates. His campaign letter will do more harm for his cause that TA1 was salvageable. It’s gone and he chose a poor method to deal with his grief (emotions) over it.

How so? Please enlighten me.

"F consensus building" = "worrying about your job security when the pension bump of a few hundred is on the line is unconscionable"

"purge everyone who doesn't agree with you" = push a ****ty TA through fast so that over 700 pilots, more than 10% of the pilot group, of which 8 out of 10 will vote no, can't vote on it.

"ignore all advice and run headfirst into the brick wall." = exactly what they did despite the pilot group pushing the MEC to not send us a ****ty concessionary TA. They ignored all advice, ran into a brick wall and sent it to us anyway. Then we told them to cancel the vote once we saw how horrible it was, they ignored all advice, ran into a brick wall and kept the vote on anyway. Then we voted no and told them to step down, they ignored all advice and ran into a brick wall and wasted time for us and didn't resign. Then we recalled them, and then they continued to ignore all advice and kept trying to ram us into a brick wall with TA 1.1 and delaying the seating of some of their replacements.

The fact of the matter is that your leaders that you love were not only wrong but also completely inept, and your continued loyalty to them is only damaging your chances of ever seeing a TA before your retirement date comes along.

LOL. Can we put the guy who believes the world is flat into the MEC Chair. That will really impress the company and the NMB.

I don't have to retire until 2032, but based on the three ring circus our union has turned into, I'm starting to wonder if I'll see a new TA before then. On the bright side, my lanyard collection will be awesome.

You obviously did not see the Brownlee or Raj messages

It very well may take a while to get to TA 2. But I'll take that vs. continuing to expect something to change after 30+months of negotiating, a terrible TA (unless you were retiring within 6 months), and continuing tone-deaf leadership with the same people at the table in the NC/MEC. I agree it'd be nice to have more definition and confidence in our new overlords plan, but that concerns me less than the TA1.1 we were bound to eventually get Dec 23 Feb 24 May 24 who knows?

Stop being so dramatic. You’re not funny.