PS: I addressed MDM and told him not to sweat it.

Prefacing the posts is a courtesy, not a requirement. The company Albie works for isn't a secret to any regular reader of the cargo forum. Given the consistent lack of recognition of familiar posters on your part and the never ending whine about which airline is this about I have to wonder what your intention is.

Personally, I thought seeing your standing bid was funny, as was the passover comment.

But, then, you continued on.

The thing that blows my mind is that evidently, our block 11 rep, (JG) must know something we do not, since he feels that it's ok to bid 777 without a negotiated payrate. We are a pathetic group.

Albie, IMHO we are not even close and we won't be until our top three, DW, DM, and WR resign from their positions.

Put me down for 777

I think you should re-read the contract.

Unfortunately (very nfortunately) the contract allows the Company to put the 777 (or any new aircraft) in service without a negotiated pay rate.

Yes it does say that after a certain period that we will go to arbitration if a rate has not been agreed to, but unfortuantely after a Bid has come out, after pilots have been trained and after it has already flown revenue.

The Union shouldn't have to (and my guess is they won't) tell anyone anything in this case.
Everyone knows what should be done. The 777 isn't in my standing bid.

I like the md-11

My momma told me once, there ain't no odds against beating yourself....

Also unfortunate is that if there isnt a pay rate, a solid union pilot would not bid it; but we have some that do. But the Company knows divide and conquer, and this is just part of their program. We just get to bicker among ourselves about the folks who do bid it, and the Company just sits back and laughs at us....as usual. We may be educated, and good at our jobs, but we are also a self serving bunch of knuckleheads.....collectively, that is.

How do you know this? Has anyone asked him about it?

When our union was negotiating the FDA LOA's, one of the first communications I received (from my union) was how swell things were going..and how the discussions were progressing in "a spirit of cooperation". I don't pay dues for that cooperative spirit. The company should be bow legged, limping and in sore need of a drink when they go home every day during negotiations! By nature they are (or should be anyhow) two opposing forces. I would hope that the 777 pay rate negotiations are contentious, aggressive and mutually antagonistic. Do what you are paid to do. Represent the interests of the pilots that elected you.
The 777 is not in my standing bid.

WG, relax, breathe deeply and take your prozac. Everything will be OK.