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FlyZ , 05-25-2015 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UGBSM

No, I made $278k. But if I made that on our lowest paying equipment Im sure our more senior captains made $300k or better.

My point is that we have a very senior pilot group with the majority approaching retirement age. That is going to flavor the next couple of contracts. And pay % may not be at the top of everyones wish list. And I doubt those approaching retirement are going to want to drag out negotiations for many years entertaining unreasonable contract demands from the just say NO crowd.

So yes, the time value of money is more important the older you are I would say.

ALPA guys are normally too smart to paint it as an old guy vs young guy debate. I think he's probably a management stooge. Also interesting that most of the senior guys here care MORE about money as they get closer to retirement.

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forgot to bid , 05-25-2015 04:26 AM

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seamonster , 05-25-2015 05:36 AM

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Does the language in our contract, regarding PS, effect the PS of all delta employees?

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seamonster , 05-25-2015 05:38 AM

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I have read that the pilots get 1/3 of PS. Does anyone know where this is writen?

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seamonster , 05-25-2015 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

I'm not a "just say no" kind of guy, however I will say no if you touch my profit sharing as part of why I'm getting any kind of raise. If they want to cash in profit sharing after section 3 then I'll be more than happy to take a look at it.

You make the point that the profit sharing check is getting pretty sizable. Well that's because A. the company is making a ton of money and B. we negotiated it and the company turned around and gave it to the rest of the employees. I don't fault them for that. If they hadn't then there very well may have been more unions on property now. They want to correct that and they could unilaterally change, not get rid of, the profit sharing for all but the 13,000 pilots that paid for it. I'm not advocating for that as I like coming to work with happy people and that would surely make an us against them mentality. How do you think that would go and how much would that save the company?

The really funny thing is that evey year, when the PS checks come out, I have an FA ask "Do you guys get PS too?"

If a "TA" has a change to PS does it then change all D employees PS?
Including FAs.

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DALMD88FO , 05-25-2015 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

Does the language in our contract, regarding PS, effect the PS of all delta employees?

In a way yes. When we voted to reduce our profit sharing in C2012 the company then reduced it for the other employees. The fed it to them the same way as they were turning it into payrates and guaranteed money. (which is a true statement) They always have that ability even if we had not reduced our PS, however it would then cause an uproar.

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DALMD88FO , 05-25-2015 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

I have read that the pilots get 1/3 of PS. Does anyone know where this is writen?

PS is a function of W2, so the pilot group makes up approximately 1/3 of the payroll so yes about 1/3 of the PS goes to the pilot group.

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DALMD88FO , 05-25-2015 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

If a "TA" has a change to PS does it then change all D employees PS?
Including FAs.

It doesn't have to, but history (C2012) says it does. Are you an FA?

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seamonster , 05-25-2015 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

It doesn't have to, but history (C2012) says it does. Are you an FA?

NO. Just wondering if our union in a roundabout way represents all nonunion employees.

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forgot to bid , 05-25-2015 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

NO. Just wondering if our union in a roundabout way represents all nonunion employees.

We get a pay raise they get a pay raise.

We cut PS they get their PS cu...... wait, no, they get PS cut and they threaten a union and so theyll keep their PS and get a raise.

Damn. And I was so happy about 80s 763 rumor that I felt like a hungry pilot next in line at Dickeys with a brand new slab of brisket being pulled out just for me.....

Or maybe we should threaten to unionize?

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