Bidding RES or REG? To choose between these two on dollars, the spreadsheet will show you your pay.

If you're looking to max time off or max flexibility to pick stuff up (more money): bid as much as possible within the Shadow--it will all be dropped (more accurately, it never actually gets awarded to you). If you're bidding RES, it's a no-brainer: let every SHADOW day be an "on call" day. If you can hold a line, my suggestion is to bid the highest-time trip you can starting on the last day of the Shadow, then bid as much as you can stuff within the Shadow. Keep in mind that you have to actually be able to get what you bid for this to work (it will never actually be on your line, but it has to be "as if" you could have gotten it). Once your line is complete, anything touching the Shadow goes "poof," so the more you have in the Shadow the less you have on your line outside the shadow, for whatever that line pays (within the LCW, as awarded by PBS).

Chart at 22.C.4 shows the various lengths of the Shadow--it starts the day after training ends. Not sure when it'll show up, but that doesn't really matter. Should be in PBS by the time you're bidding for Dec.

Keep in mind that the Shadow doesn't mean squat once your line is built--the OE Planner owns you and schedules you when he has an LCA available. Ideally (from their point of view), that's during the Shadow--but, if you go beyond that, you're still his property. Advise letting him know (prob too late the "official" way in iCrew, I think that's due by the 25th 2 mos prior(?), but you can always call/email) if you have any "must have" days off in there, bearing in mind that he's probably got plenty of folks wanting Xmas off, too (fortunately, that's also true of the LCAs!).

My training ended last Dec--a tactical RES bid put all of my RES days in the Shadow + 1 outside, and all of my Golden X days from 23 Dec forward. Finished OE on 22nd, enjoyed the Holidays at home.

Thank you for all the info. Here's to hoping the LCA wants Christmas off.

Award max schedule.
Award trips departing on every single day of shadow period.

Does a KLOApay anything during the time off? Or is it just time off?

Thanks Jug, exactly what I was looking for

>>Does a KLOApay anything during the time off? Or is it just time off?<<

IIRC, it's in the contract as "known personal leave". NO Pay, but you are still on payroll for vacation/insurance, etc.

This is different from a "SIL". Note that TA2016 establishes a company-selected variable pay rate for SILs. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. DAL obviously doesn't like paying 55 hours (vs reserve guarantee) for a pilot they don't anticipate using. The interesting part is what the new SIL rate might be and whether it will be different by category. Kind of a "Dutch Auction" aspect to it that will play out over few months perhaps.

Ref LOA 2. para 9A.

Well, training for the recent AE can start as early as........TOMORROW!
Where in the he11 is the projected training/ conversions for the AE that closed 2 weeks ago? Dickson's update said it would be out sometime LAST week. Some of us are trying to make plans for the next few months. Might be some nice info to have on hand.

Then quit wasting time complaining on here and call someone in ATL.

A couple numbers I would recommend are either the CPSC or directly to Crew Resources/Planning.

You would have been notified already if your training starts soon.

Check Deltanet under conversions. It has November and December posted as of 26 Oct.