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Originally Posted by finis72
Excuse me for my ignorance but isn't our minimum layover 9:15 ? In most instances this would provide you with about 8:45 behind the door. If for some reason, traffic, delays or whatever you don't get an adequate time behind the door you call and adjust your departure time. This is a gray area that I'm sure is being debated but it has always been incumbent upon us pilots to get adequate rest.
finis,
It's not a gray area at all. The minimum layover by FAR 117 is now 10:00, with an 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity. The rest is not reduceable like it used to be. You are absolutely correct that in most instances this should provide more than enough time for the opportunity to sleep for 8 uninterrupted hours, as specified in the FAR. The problem is that some within DALPA (including the Chairman of the Scheduling Committee and at least one rep) are telling pilots that the 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep opportunity specified in the FAR is exactly the same thing as the "8 hours behind the door" in our pilot contract. That is absolutely, 100% false.
The only "gray area" is how much time
over and above 8 hours behind the door a person needs in order to have the opportunity to get 8 hours of sleep per the FAR. That's going to have to be an individual judgment call made by each of us if we find ourselves in that situation. But no one can possibly have the opportunity to get 8 hours of sleep if they only have 8 hours (and no more) behind the door. It's physically impossible and is therefore a clear violation of FAR 117.
I think it's a problem when DALPA officials put out bad or misleading information, especially when it concerns compliance with an FAR. Don't you?