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01-10-2014 | 08:21 AM
#8981
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Very quite on the DPA front.
Are they tapping out?
Is there a power struggle ay the top involving TC?
Usually they are quite strident and pounce on any little thing ALPA does or doesn't do, but now nothing but crickets since MD arrived on this scene.
Hmmmmmm. Could it be??????
Are they tapping out?
Is there a power struggle ay the top involving TC?
Usually they are quite strident and pounce on any little thing ALPA does or doesn't do, but now nothing but crickets since MD arrived on this scene.
Hmmmmmm. Could it be??????
01-10-2014 | 12:06 PM
#8982
GAME ON!!!!
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 131
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Very quite on the DPA front.
Are they tapping out?
Is there a power struggle ay the top involving TC?
Usually they are quite strident and pounce on any little thing ALPA does or doesn't do, but now nothing but crickets since MD arrived on this scene.
Hmmmmmm. Could it be??????
Are they tapping out?
Is there a power struggle ay the top involving TC?
Usually they are quite strident and pounce on any little thing ALPA does or doesn't do, but now nothing but crickets since MD arrived on this scene.
Hmmmmmm. Could it be??????
They had a card countdown requirement to zero....then.......nothing.
Was it all a dream?
01-10-2014 | 12:42 PM
#8983
Line Holder
Joined: May 2012
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I have been visiting the new chitchat forum setup in response to the DALPA forum shutdown. First it makes me appreciate the civility on this forum between both sides. That and the fact that everything does not turn into DPA v DALPA.
According to one of the members of the DPA advisory council who is now posting there a great deal this is the year. Of course I think I have heard that before, maybe the countdown clock will make a comeback.
According to one of the members of the DPA advisory council who is now posting there a great deal this is the year. Of course I think I have heard that before, maybe the countdown clock will make a comeback.
01-10-2014 | 03:20 PM
#8985
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Gets Weekends Off
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I have been with ALPA through 3 airlines.
I desperately wanted to see some change back to the median at least.
Frustrated with the direction that the LM gang was taking and their agenda.
Cautiously optimistic with MD. If he navigates 117 successfully, TC and the group need to step out and we need to unify.
Section 6 is going to be brutal after observing how the company is reacting and trying to subvert our contract with memos from SD. Unification will be paramount.
Backpack. Humble. Don't get greedy.
01-10-2014 | 04:23 PM
#8986
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
I am absolutely certain Delta pilots must be represented in-house, without the encumbrance of ALPA national.
However, I have reached the conclusion (just my opinion) that there is no path to DPA's election. Here are three of the reasons why.
1) TC. He has parlayed our legitimate dissatisfaction with ALPA into a means for furthering his own vendetta. By refusing to heed reasonable requests to step aside, he strikes me as out-of-touch and as arrogant as the ALPA goons we're trying to ditch.
2) Transparency. What is the magic number of cards, and how many active cards are there? DPA has justly dinged DALPA's lack of transparency...and then refused to be forthcoming itself.
3) Credibility. I believe most Delta pilots have integrity. I like to think I do. It bothers me that the DPA has associated itself with very shady counsel. I don't need or even want my lawyers to be boy scouts--but those guys seem to have some serious ethical shortcomings beyond what we're comfortable with. I realize those lawyers would not be involved in the end-state union, but Delta pilots won't sign on to a cause represented at any stage by those folks.
Make no mistake, this is not an endorsement of ALPA in any way, shape or form. I despise sending Delta pilots' money to a bloated and ineffective bureaucracy whose only goal is institutional and individual self-preservation and wealth/power accumulation.
Delta line pilots are merely an ATM for ALPA national, and to a lesser extent, the entrenched DALPA junta. Now, realistically, it's impossible to completely eradicate the waste/abuse. But if we've got to have it, I don't want it going to national. Let's keep it in-house.
TC has damaged the in-house union brand significantly, if not irreparably. It will take years to rehab our group's perception of an in-house union drive. If only he had stepped away a year or two ago.
So I guess I've become a secessionist. I'll be researching the viability of installing an MEC that will support secession from national...or an MEC that will modify the bylaws to effect such an outcome. Is it possible? Who knows, maybe you'll see me on a ballot someday.
However, I have reached the conclusion (just my opinion) that there is no path to DPA's election. Here are three of the reasons why.
1) TC. He has parlayed our legitimate dissatisfaction with ALPA into a means for furthering his own vendetta. By refusing to heed reasonable requests to step aside, he strikes me as out-of-touch and as arrogant as the ALPA goons we're trying to ditch.
2) Transparency. What is the magic number of cards, and how many active cards are there? DPA has justly dinged DALPA's lack of transparency...and then refused to be forthcoming itself.
3) Credibility. I believe most Delta pilots have integrity. I like to think I do. It bothers me that the DPA has associated itself with very shady counsel. I don't need or even want my lawyers to be boy scouts--but those guys seem to have some serious ethical shortcomings beyond what we're comfortable with. I realize those lawyers would not be involved in the end-state union, but Delta pilots won't sign on to a cause represented at any stage by those folks.
Make no mistake, this is not an endorsement of ALPA in any way, shape or form. I despise sending Delta pilots' money to a bloated and ineffective bureaucracy whose only goal is institutional and individual self-preservation and wealth/power accumulation.
Delta line pilots are merely an ATM for ALPA national, and to a lesser extent, the entrenched DALPA junta. Now, realistically, it's impossible to completely eradicate the waste/abuse. But if we've got to have it, I don't want it going to national. Let's keep it in-house.
TC has damaged the in-house union brand significantly, if not irreparably. It will take years to rehab our group's perception of an in-house union drive. If only he had stepped away a year or two ago.
So I guess I've become a secessionist. I'll be researching the viability of installing an MEC that will support secession from national...or an MEC that will modify the bylaws to effect such an outcome. Is it possible? Who knows, maybe you'll see me on a ballot someday.
01-29-2014 | 03:50 PM
#8989
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
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From: Poodle Whisperer
I'm having fun digging through their press releases now...
Delta Pilots Association - DPA News - TWA Lawsuit Update - Damage Discovery Begins
Delta Pilots Association - DPA News - TWA Lawsuit Update - ALPA Loses Appeal Attempt
Delta Pilots Association - DPA News - TWA Lawsuit Update - Damage Discovery Begins
Delta Pilots Association - DPA News - TWA Lawsuit Update - ALPA Loses Appeal Attempt
01-29-2014 | 03:52 PM
#8990
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
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From: Poodle Whisperer
These fools need to stop. They are claiming that more than half of Delta pilots support a representation change in that latest release, which is not accurate. I put in a card, but that was not a vote for them. It was to have the discussion. Now it's just coming across as desperate.
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