FtB; Funny how you and I have said this before.

BTW, what DAL gives other employee groups is not our issue. It may effect us, but we do not negotiate for them. That thinking is part of the reason, and rather smartly many other groups prefer not to have representation. They get what we get and do not do much for it. It has been DAL's mantra and it works well for them. They take the other employee group costs in to account with giving us/our union a deal. It should not be something we deal with at the table.

I also highly doubt that DAL will give other groups 40%.

That aside, you numbers that correct. Using 2010 data, each percentage increase in pay, with no work rule changes is equal to about 18 million dollars. That is for day one of a new agreement, and goes up from there at the DOS+ bumps.

Excellent post!!!

Carl

I would be willing to accept the 10% with 15-20% with some rule and of course scope improvements. PLEASE everyone realize this time around that we would be better to Hold or reduce scope than go for the sky's with pay rates. Dont ask why all these regional jets are taking your flying if you are going to give it to them on a silver platter!

If we can get these and still pull higher rates then by all means thats in the discussion. Just dont give up the important stuff.

Xtreme,

It has gotten lost in the hyperbole, however I prefaced the original post with assumed no degradation in either Scope or work rules. Either of those is a complete non-starter , and will repeat expect improvement in those as well.

Anybody get the council 1 update from the MEC meeting? I thought the blurb about their meeting with RA was interesting.

Well, what did it say? It's not up on the LEC001 web page. PM me if you don't want to put it up here.

Sorry, should have posted this the first time:

Meeting with Senior Executives
Delta’s CEO, Richard Anderson, and VP Labor Relations, Mike Campbell, met with the MEC in closed session. While we cannot divulge the content of that meeting, we can say that Richard seemed more reserved and serious than in previous meetings (the DTW reps described it as having on his “game face”).

Having never gone through a contract negotiation, how does the polling get done? Do they send out a paper survey to everyone or just a representative sample? How are the issues or choices presented? Are you limited to what they select or do you write your own priorities?

More than likely a web based survey of great length when the time comes.

Gloopy's the one who "stole my thunder" (and saved me a whole lot of typing)!!!


Great post, Gloopy!