View Poll Results: Minimum Acceptable Contractual Pay Raises
<5% day 1, 15% life of contract
4
3.33%
>5%<10% day 1, 15%
2
1.67%
>5%<10% day 1 20%
1
0.83%
>5%<10% day 1 25%
4
3.33%
>10%<20% day 1 25%
17
14.17%
>10%<20% day 1 30%
17
14.17%
>10%<20% day 1 35%
10
8.33%
>10%<20% day 1 40%
65
54.17%
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03-08-2011 | 09:55 PM
#61
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03-09-2011 | 03:04 AM
#62
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Had no idea pay and QOL was so good at southwest...
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There are a lot of variables involved so please take this data with a grain of salt. I assume 110 tfp per month, IMHO fairly easy to do when vacation months are included. 16/17 days off on reserve. This doesn't include the company 401k contribution or the pilot 401k contribution. Also doesn't include profit sharing or upcoming (potential) raises:
First Officer 110 TFP/mo
YR1$49.19 $64,933.44
2 $82.99 $109,550.76
3 $92.40 $121,973.28
4 $102.00 $134,633.40
5 $111.73 $147,478.32
6 $116.61 $153,921.24
7 $119.71 $158,014.56
8 $122.85 $162,160.68
9 $124.23 $163,984.92
10 $127.43 $168,209.05
11 $128.84 $170,070.38
12 $130.24 $171,916.80
Shamelessly taken from another board
There are a lot of variables involved so please take this data with a grain of salt. I assume 110 tfp per month, IMHO fairly easy to do when vacation months are included. 16/17 days off on reserve. This doesn't include the company 401k contribution or the pilot 401k contribution. Also doesn't include profit sharing or upcoming (potential) raises:
First Officer 110 TFP/mo
YR1$49.19 $64,933.44
2 $82.99 $109,550.76
3 $92.40 $121,973.28
4 $102.00 $134,633.40
5 $111.73 $147,478.32
6 $116.61 $153,921.24
7 $119.71 $158,014.56
8 $122.85 $162,160.68
9 $124.23 $163,984.92
10 $127.43 $168,209.05
11 $128.84 $170,070.38
12 $130.24 $171,916.80
How many TFP's does the average SW FO get??
03-09-2011 | 03:28 AM
#63
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Heyas,
At the risk of sounding like a heretic, its not all about payrates. A really careful look at their work rules and benefits needs to be considered as well. Some of the Tranny folks are starting to figure that out and are pretty surprised at what they find.
Nu
At the risk of sounding like a heretic, its not all about payrates. A really careful look at their work rules and benefits needs to be considered as well. Some of the Tranny folks are starting to figure that out and are pretty surprised at what they find.
Nu
03-09-2011 | 03:40 AM
#64
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From: Left, left, left right left....
Agreed. However work rules need to be accurately costed from the get-go, and we have to stop the historical habit of undervaluing them during concessions and then paying premium plus to get them back.
03-09-2011 | 05:56 AM
#65
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03-09-2011 | 06:01 AM
#66
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You know what? Compared to what we have now, I'm perfectly fine making the kind of money the SWA pilots are making, and flying 80 hours per month with 16 days off. Doesn't sound to me like they have any work rule problems.
03-09-2011 | 06:39 AM
#67
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Agreed- payrates to match/exceed average W-2s, 17-18 days off, and easy ability to drop or pick up additional flying across seniorities.
03-09-2011 | 06:43 AM
#68
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From: Legacy FO
Doesn't SWA have all short callouts for their reserves? I think that is the difference. They are manned fairly lean over there. We have too many folks sitting around, in conversion, or in training.
03-09-2011 | 07:17 AM
#69
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I believe their call-outs are all short, but they always fly vs sitting around in a crashpad if a commuter.
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