So they’re talking furloughs and financial despair in the latest negotiations report... Either that’s true, or the worst tactic in the playbook to get guys to vote in a crummy contract. Vote industry leading, NOTHING ELSE!

The director of ops is gone and the VP of ops, who to his defense could only fake-it-to-make-it for so long is also gone.... That's what happens when the bills don't get paid.

Furlough? Didn't they just have a class?

Mhmm, Kinda silly to have a class before they know what 800 crews are going to leave or get demoted. Either way sounds like their new theme song is going to be a classic 1998 hit by Semisonic.....

So sorry to hear that, guys...

The light of hope, though, is that there is a ton of hiring going on now pretty much everywhere. Best of luck to you all.

Questions: Didn't XOJET have something to do with you all and are the furloughs written in stone?

Again, best of luck to you all.

Best and final offer....BOHICA

Sucks for the new hires, if there is a furlough. They will be the first to go.

Not written in stone 727, but they need or are wanting to get rid of 30-35 pilots. They are offering a translation bonus for the Hawker guys to leave. They are supposedly calling other companies and asking about hiring the Hawker pilots.

Odd how with current attrition rates they cannot wait two months for number of pilots needed to dwindle down to desired amount. Strange they find need to pay people to leave. $15,000 would be nice settlement to help make it on first year pay at next job.

Look at the two geniuses in the CP and DO spots... nothing out of that brain trust would be surprising.