Post 9/11 GI bill for flight training? - Page 2

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jbrian24 , 10-11-2011 07:58 PM

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Does anyone know if the date of expiration for the MGIB is 10 years after you first start to use it or 10 years after you separate from AD service. I started using mine 7 years ago to help pay for school and flight training, but still have 8 more years of service before I retire. Still have over 30k left on it. Should I get some types if its going to expire even though I got many years left and wouldn't be able to use them.

#12

AF2Navy , 10-11-2011 08:48 PM

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approved institutions for 9/11 GI Bill?

anyone have any website links or an idea how to find out if certain companies are approved for Type ratings under the Post 9/11 GI Bill?

#13

Fluglehrer , 10-11-2011 09:00 PM

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MGIB expires 10 years after separation. Post 9/11 GI Bill expires 15 years after separation.

#14

CAFB 04-12 , 10-12-2011 02:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Yes there schools that do the ATP under 141. A 141 course can be very short...CFI, ATP, etc.

There are also places you can get types under 141, for a variety of aircraft.

If I had MGIB that was about to expire, I'd get a 73 (SWA), citation (fallback type), and G-V. The G-V might too pricey.

So many GI Bills to keep track of. Does the post 9/11 GI Bill have the same rules for flight training (i.e., school has to be part 141)?

Edit: to answer my own question.

Looks like schools have to be VA approved according to this website

Quote:
Selecting a flight training school

The AOPA recommends considering the following when selecting a flight training school:

The instructors. Who are they? What are their certifications? Do they have an instrument instructor rating?
The instructor-to-student ratio.
How the school maintains student records. Will they be accessible to students when needed?
The equipment. Are the planes at the school well maintained? Are flight simulators available?
Another element servicemembers will want to consider is whether or not the school approved by the VA. The US Department of Veterans Affairs has a system in place to check if a particular flight training school provides VA approved flight training. Veterans should confirm their flight school meet's the VA's qualifications for being listed prior to enrolling for classes.

Currently, flight schools approved by the US Department of Veterans Affairs are eligible for reimbursement under the Montgomery GI Bill, and will be eligible for direct payment under the Post-9/11 GI Bill after October 1st. It's a good idea for veterans interested in attending flight school to obtain a VA Certificate of Eligibility in order to find out the amount of military education benefits they could receive for flight training. It's important for veterans to remember that they are ultimately responsible for payment of the program, with or without VA reimbursement.

http://www.gibill.com/news/flight-tr...-bill-333.html

#15

rickair7777 , 10-12-2011 02:04 PM

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Yes, all flights schools must be both 141 and VA approved in order for students to use either MGIB.

141 does not automatically mean VA approval...that involves additional training and certification for the school and it's staff.

#16

Chinabug , 10-12-2011 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vifa

Chinabug

You can use your GI Bill for flight training but it needs to be from an accredited part 141 school that offers the training you want. Most ATP schools fall under Part 61 and do not qualify. I don't know if there are any schools that offer a 737 type and fall under 141. Good luck.

Good info, thanks. I'm looking at using it for the 737 type rating vice ATP.

Some great gouge in the thread, thanks. Most APC threads are simply banter back and forth from disgruntal pilots...

Best of luck to all.

#17

Hrkdrivr , 10-16-2011 08:53 PM

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Sheesh, this is killing me.

Anybody know if HPA is VA approved and/or a Part 141 school? I can't figure it out from their web pages...

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propfails2FX , 10-17-2011 01:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr

Sheesh, this is killing me.

Anybody know if HPA is VA approved and/or a Part 141 school? I can't figure it out from their web pages...

Link to VA interactive map. Select Program Type "Flight" and click on desired state.

WEAMS Public

Institution Name: HIGHER POWER AVIATION INC FLT
Abbreviated Name:
Street: 4650 DIPLOMACY DRIVE
City: FORT WORTH
State: TX
Zip Code: 76155
Country: USA

#19

Duksrule , 10-17-2011 04:58 AM

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Please delete answered my own ?

#20

Sputnik , 10-17-2011 05:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr

Sheesh, this is killing me.

Anybody know if HPA is VA approved and/or a Part 141 school? I can't figure it out from their web pages...

I've been talking to them direct--they're very helpful and responsive. Just realize that they, along with the rest of the world, have no idea just what part of aviation training the 9-11 bill will pay for or how much eligibility it'll take away.