What training section games?
The killer is how to,distribute the lump sum? It appears the company wants and immediate vote ( aka passage) onmthe jcba so they can begin planning and taking advantage of more synergies, bc they know the pool of $ will take forever to get an agreement by the mecs thereby prolonging other issues... The tpa doesnt expire in whole, but certain parts do in 2.5 months..

This is the most embarassing attempt at ending a contract ive ever seen or been privy to.

Motch,

The incomplete AIP was announced by Heppner to dissuade political angst against him for not having accomplished anything. Remember when the Wallach/Heppner supporters were crucifying Morse for not having an agreement after having only been in office for the same amount of time?

No previous administration announced an AIP unless it was a complete AIP. This was a partial AIP with major portions unfinished and portrayed as a "great win for the United pilots." It's announcement was pure political BS that is going to backfire on Heppner.

Once again the "great unifier" and the "great negotiator" and the "great MEC Chairman" put his politics before substance and the United pilots and we will all suffer.

Supposedly (though it was confirmed at the Union meeting)..
The company got/hired/found Jackson Martin to read over the final language for the Training section and he Red X'd alot of it! Took 40-60 man hours to fix/come to an agreement.

That's the "game" I'm talking about.

As I stated, based on the "bonus" (no longer Retro) issue and how they divide the money, I don't expect any TA any time soon. I actually blame the NC/MEC for allowing the company to come up with a great way to point the finger at the pilots/union for "delaying" the JCBA.

Anyway, let's see how many other Sections run into Language issues...

Motch

Thanks for that info, i had not heard anything like that. Well hopefully they got it worked out for the better. Cant blame the company on how to distribute an award, thats on the mecs, the pie is only so big, so just share it equally bc its a mexican standoff if one group gets 50.1%
We need to come together in so many ways to move forward, but the damn $ keeps changing the game. Sad really. One year = $150 million more in compensation dal gets more than ual, thatbwe can never recover

Must say, it's brilliant on the Company's part.

From the LEC level, I've heard that there has been some major discourse between the MEC's on how to split the "Company Bestowed Pot". Via the same LEC Rep, there has been "conjecture" of a 70/30 (UA/CAL) ratio floating about.....time will tell.

Your right, it could turn into a Mexican Standoff. I sure hope that something agreed to soon so that the details/review of the T/A can begin to get this process in motion.

One thing's for sure......Taken way too long.

SonnyC,
Any basis for the 19 Oct rumor? Care to quote a reference, like maybe at an LEC meeting...?
Would love to see this come true...
Getting tired of waiting...

Im just an applicant on the outside looking in, but heard through a buddy of mine that there would be a big announcement on the 19th and hiring would resume at that point (I assume it would be something JCBA related that would drive the hiring announcement).

Could be...
Heard ALPA was a "no-show" at FAM day today. Maybe they are a little busy putting the "icing on the cake"?

There should be no more urgency this week than there was for the last 2+ years. Should have been max thrust all the way
But I don't believe that was the case

FWIW.....The EWR-LEC Meeting where JP was present (mentioned below).