UAL Recalls
10-04-2012, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by missintheline
Anyone get a letter yet or hear about anyone getting a recall letter? Anyone.....anyone.....
My cynical side assumes there will be no "good" news anytime soon as UCH postures for a 50% +1 vote. If UAL wants to run classes in the spring they don't need to send any notices quite yet.
FWIW, I attended a recent Family Awareness event and the intent of UAL to recall was confirmed by one of the SSC reps present who has direct knowledge of UAL's "plan". Left unsaid was any potential side letters that might deal with pilots currently at CAL.
10-06-2012, 06:35 AM
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Not so fast....
Update On Recalls
We are disappointed to announce that the company has now stated that even though furlough recalls are in the plan for 2013, it is not yet ready to make an official announcement. The company's stated reason is that the block hour plan is still in flux and it is not sure exactly how many pilots it will need next summer. The company is not comfortable enough with the numbers even to announce a general number and time frame for recalls, but, nonetheless, was able to forecast a large CAL system bid and announcement of new pilot hiring. The toying with our furloughees’ emotions is reprehensible. The MEC will continue to press management to publish a plan.
Update On Recalls
We are disappointed to announce that the company has now stated that even though furlough recalls are in the plan for 2013, it is not yet ready to make an official announcement. The company's stated reason is that the block hour plan is still in flux and it is not sure exactly how many pilots it will need next summer. The company is not comfortable enough with the numbers even to announce a general number and time frame for recalls, but, nonetheless, was able to forecast a large CAL system bid and announcement of new pilot hiring. The toying with our furloughees’ emotions is reprehensible. The MEC will continue to press management to publish a plan.
10-06-2012, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dicecal
Not so fast....
Update On Recalls
We are disappointed to announce that the company has now stated that even though furlough recalls are in the plan for 2013, it is not yet ready to make an official announcement. The company's stated reason is that the block hour plan is still in flux and it is not sure exactly how many pilots it will need next summer. The company is not comfortable enough with the numbers even to announce a general number and time frame for recalls, but, nonetheless, was able to forecast a large CAL system bid and announcement of new pilot hiring. The toying with our furloughees’ emotions is reprehensible. The MEC will continue to press management to publish a plan.
Update On Recalls
We are disappointed to announce that the company has now stated that even though furlough recalls are in the plan for 2013, it is not yet ready to make an official announcement. The company's stated reason is that the block hour plan is still in flux and it is not sure exactly how many pilots it will need next summer. The company is not comfortable enough with the numbers even to announce a general number and time frame for recalls, but, nonetheless, was able to forecast a large CAL system bid and announcement of new pilot hiring. The toying with our furloughees’ emotions is reprehensible. The MEC will continue to press management to publish a plan.
10-06-2012, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly
Prediction: The company will announce definite recalls during TA vote.
10-06-2012, 09:37 AM
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A lot of reading between the lines here.
My take:
The Company has put recalls to LUAL on hold until the outcome of a TA is decided. Recalls will look totally different if the TA becomes the JCBA verses if it fails and we are back to the bargaining table for another decade.
My take:
The Company has put recalls to LUAL on hold until the outcome of a TA is decided. Recalls will look totally different if the TA becomes the JCBA verses if it fails and we are back to the bargaining table for another decade.
10-10-2012, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Yup, or after a new side letter is signed that prevents pilots from bailing CAL to return to UAL since the press-to-test on quitting CAL while retaining a position on the UAL list has been completed.
Okay, latest rumor I got today was TA announcement on the 19th.....don't hold your breath.
Frats,
Lee
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10-11-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by beeker
last week i heard 3 different people say this past monday.
I am officially starting the oct 31 TA rumor, trick or treat.
I am officially starting the oct 31 TA rumor, trick or treat.
Lee
10-11-2012, 09:05 AM
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TA announced on Friday the 19th OCT 2012.
Alpa boys/girls are busy pigging out in South Florida at the hospitality suites of each airline (ALPA BOD MEETING) .....meanwhile we have people on furlough, newhires making 33 bucks and hour.....sigh the list continues.
Alpa boys/girls are busy pigging out in South Florida at the hospitality suites of each airline (ALPA BOD MEETING) .....meanwhile we have people on furlough, newhires making 33 bucks and hour.....sigh the list continues.
10-11-2012, 01:56 PM
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Since no one has posted this with regards to the LEC Council meeting the other day (8 Oct 12)-
It was stated that the TA was hoped to be completed by mid Sept. Then the date was 1 Oct. Then it was 5 Oct. Until a few days ago it was 11 Oct and now the latest is 19 Oct.
After what I heard at that meeting, I no longer have faith that we will see a full TA any time soon. (That is just my opinion, the dates above were facts as stated by the MEC Chair).
Guess we'll know by next Friday~
Motch
PS> I hope I'm wrong.. but between the games the company played with regards to the Training Section, and with the "Bonus" amount still to be determined by the two MEC, I am not holding my breathe.
While I don't want this rushed, I also don't want to be lied to by my own Union.
AIP announced 2 Aug. We had release deadlines in June and July...
And still we wait~
It was stated that the TA was hoped to be completed by mid Sept. Then the date was 1 Oct. Then it was 5 Oct. Until a few days ago it was 11 Oct and now the latest is 19 Oct.
After what I heard at that meeting, I no longer have faith that we will see a full TA any time soon. (That is just my opinion, the dates above were facts as stated by the MEC Chair).
Guess we'll know by next Friday~
Motch
PS> I hope I'm wrong.. but between the games the company played with regards to the Training Section, and with the "Bonus" amount still to be determined by the two MEC, I am not holding my breathe.
While I don't want this rushed, I also don't want to be lied to by my own Union.
AIP announced 2 Aug. We had release deadlines in June and July...
And still we wait~
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