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Quote: As the old adage goes, "How do you know there is a Fighter Pilot at your party??? He'll tell you." Most of us try desperately NOT to be that guy.
Oh, paleez. It's not just fighter pilots. "As Connie always said you can never trust a pilot and she was right."
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Not all fighter guys, not even all F-15 drivers, but 15 minutes into the 1st leg I can with 90% certainty pose the question, "Soooo.....what year were you a T-38 FAEP?"
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Quote: Not all fighter guys, not even all F-15 drivers, but 15 minutes into the 1st leg I can with 90% certainty pose the question, "Soooo.....what year were you a T-38 FAEP?"
You mean FAIP.....?
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sCAL uses age, sUAL uses last four of SS number (lower is better). I'd suspect that this is one of the issues currently being worked on by the joint hiring committee so it may (or may not) change.
Hopefully they change to the sCAL way of ranking people in class. It only seems fair. The sUAL way is beneficial if you grew up in the east, because the last four numbers of you SS number are regional starting in the northeast and working to the west.
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Not so sure that's a valid assessment. I grew up in the east. Last four starts with a 9 and I was the junior maggot 8 ball.

Not that it matters at this point. 14 years gets you exactly bupkis after the wrath of tilton.
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Quote: Hopefully they change to the sCAL way of ranking people in class. It only seems fair. The sUAL way is beneficial if you grew up in the east, because the last four numbers of you SS number are regional starting in the northeast and working to the west.
WHAT???

I'm from New Mexico and my last four digits start with a 2. So in your opinion age discrimination is always a better way to go than a random number?
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Quote: Hopefully they change to the sCAL way of ranking people in class. It only seems fair. The sUAL way is beneficial if you grew up in the east, because the last four numbers of you SS number are regional starting in the northeast and working to the west.
I may be wrong, but as I understand it, it's the first three numbers of your SSN that are regional based, however, those regionally based numbers are being phased out. I was born in CA, SSN sarts with a 5, my wife was born in Bangkok, Thailand, hers starts with a 5, but my son was born in Austin, Texas, his starts with a 6.

I think the FAIP comment is dead-on accurate. As an MWS IP in the T-1, it was quite evident, even after I left UPT, who the FAIPs were, be they T-1, T-38 or T-37 (now T-6). Hard to get that FAIP-stink off.
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Quote: I may be wrong, but as I understand it, it's the first three numbers of your SSN that are regional based, however, those regionally based numbers are being phased out. I was born in CA, SSN sarts with a 5, my wife was born in Bangkok, Thailand, hers starts with a 5, but my son was born in Austin, Texas, his starts with a 6.

I think the FAIP comment is dead-on accurate. As an MWS IP in the T-1, it was quite evident, even after I left UPT, who the FAIPs were, be they T-1, T-38 or T-37 (now T-6). Hard to get that FAIP-stink off.
AIR, How is it age discrimination? Oldest guy in the class is 1, youngest is the last. Older guy retires first, younger guy follows at a later date. The last four of the SS # is "birth discrimination". That's a new one..

The Social Security number is a nine-digit number in the format "AAA-GG-SSSS".[24] The number is divided into three parts.

The Area Number, the first three digits, is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1973, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the office code in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be in the area where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office. Since 1973, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant regardless of whether the card was issued prior to, or after, 1973.

Generally, numbers were assigned beginning in the northeast and moving south and westward, so that people on the East Coast had the lowest numbers and those on the West Coast had the highest numbers. As the areas assigned to a locality are exhausted, new areas from the pool are assigned, so some states have noncontiguous groups of numbers.

The middle two digits are the Group Number. The Group Numbers range from 01 to 99. However, they are not assigned in consecutive order. For administrative reasons, group numbers are issued in the following order:[25]

ODD numbers from 01 through 09.
EVEN numbers from 10 through 98.
EVEN numbers from 02 through 08.
ODD numbers from 11 through 99.

As an example, Group Number 98 will be issued before 11.

The last four digits are Serial Numbers. They represent a straight numerical sequence of digits from 0001-9999 within the group.
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Quote: Hopefully they change to the sCAL way of ranking people in class. It only seems fair. The sUAL way is beneficial if you grew up in the east, because the last four numbers of you SS number are regional starting in the northeast and working to the west.
Adding to list.....I don't think your hypothesis hold's true.

Coming from a "Left Coast" cat, born-n-bred, the last four digit's of my SS# starts with a "ZERO".

Either way, I sure wish L-CAL used this "lucky lotto" method. I would have made out better in my class.

FWIW, and if I'm not mistaken, at one time didn't DAL also use the "lucky lotto" system when ranking their New Hire classes / Senior---->Junior??
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Quote: Adding to list.....I don't think your hypothesis hold's true.

Coming from a "Left Coast" cat, born-n-bred, the last four digit's of my SS# starts with a "ZERO".

Either way, I sure wish L-CAL used this "lucky lotto" method. I would have made out better in my class.

FWIW, and if I'm not mistaken, at one time didn't DAL also use the "lucky lotto" system when ranking their New Hire classes / Senior---->Junior??
Winning the lottery is just getting hired, who really cares about initial seniority?
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