And the 200+ of attrition over the next 5 years? That factored in to your insider info? (150-ish when we secure a contract with scope, 250+ if we haven’t in the next few years)


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Unless the 3850 includes the pilots needed to fly the 80 E-170s and the 2932 doesn’t.

At present FO attrition is equal to retirement numbers. It could pick up as the big 3 seem to be on a hiring binge ATM.

Heck, I may even get a call from UAL. They are hiring 1300 in 2020 alone


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Hmm thats odd, I just looked at the January base position and see at least 3062 pilots. Thats 130 more pilots than you claim! You dont have to be a math major to realize that your claims are full of sh.... Kind of like the company's claim of being one happy family! In addition, 3 years ago I heard in person from Hornibrook that we will be a total of 5000 pilots by 2023. Yeah about that!😉

Look up the difference between active pilots and base position lists. BPLs are useless. MEA is most likely referring to active pilots.

So an order for 146 737s?

Then why do BPLs are even published? Not directed at you by any means but this company seems to have difficulty publishing pertinent information. Last seniority list I find is from almost 5 months ago. Is it really that hard to publish one every month? Nonetheless, I'm done focusing on things I can't control here. My New Years resolution is to stay away from useless forums! Happy New Year all and hope 2020 is be kind to us all!

Lets agree to disagree... But for all our sake and future I hope some of your claims come true!

Wait and read the 4th quarter results for anything substantial, they kept telling analysts they’d have more information around then. Looking forward to higher congestion in Seattle!

It’s just a total amount of people in that B/S/E. It’s useless for monthly bidding. The only thing it helps is to see where you’d fall in that BSE when it comes to vacancy bidding.

Finally we are getting estimated bid lists. This is what we had at VX. A tots list of bidders eligible that month. Now if this shows 165 tots people and 105 lines, you know you’d have 60 people in the OF/RSV bidding process.


As for seniority lists the CBA says the company will publish it twice, Feb 5th and Aug 5th. That’s why you only see it 2x/year.