"My understanding regarding OTP is the advantage is they get to cherry-pick trips before the VTOs. Once the new bid month is released into open time, it's every man for himself and OTP no longer gives you any advantage. Am I right or am I rillo? So all these charters becoming available after open-time release has no relevance to OTP."

I obviously understand very little, but....I think you're right, but the priority you have to cherry pick trips before the VTO's is just in the monthly make-up bid, and is not considered OTP. OTP is when you have a trip cancelled and instead of going into sub status, you decide to go into OTP. Anyone?

" In fact they could use all sorts of odd denial codes to clean out those in front of me. Things like, "trip not legal", "no one in seven", "no one in ten" etc. Then the scheduler at the desk would always be approving the top person in the queue when he looked at the list. It might look odd, but really hard to prove. Well, at least it would take a couple hours and someone who cared."

I think they could get away with that in the old days when it wasn't computer tracked. I remember Amos would just to deny my swaps all the time, for illegalities when I had no trip in sight on either week, or one in seven, same situation. When I'd call, he'd say, "Oh, just reinput it." Surprise, earlier time stamped. Once he denied a mutual swap when I was swapping a one week trip for a one day trip to the other guy, saying, "But one person is going to get paid so much more." Well so freaking what, what business was it of his? Just weird stuff. But I think everything is numbered and time stamped, and it would be pretty hard to get away with that. Plus, someone could demand to talk to the manager and have them track it. That would be pretty risky for a scheduler.

You should have added black helicopters to this missive and it would have been perfect

Are the repeat abusers on the trips mentioned so far the Cap, FO, or both?

No I don't think this is correct. The OTP really does not help before VTOs that is CIC cherry picking. From my understanding OTP helps between 7 and 9 Elvis time. This is when all of the sick is released and the only time it really isn't 1st come 1st served. I suppose OTP could help at other time during the day if a scheduler were looking for a specific request.

The F/O on 2186/12 and 2242/19 is one of them.
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Come on guys - OTP stands for Open Time Priority. Meaning first dibs for Open Time. Nothing to do with the View/Add window.

It is the one thing that the company throws down every time we ask for a real-time trip trading system. They say OTP makes it impossible.

If a trip is in open time and 20 guys have put in bids to make it up, they go by time stamp. Except for the one guy who threw down OTP, who goes to the front of the list. Even with a later time stamp the OTP guy gets the trip. The reasoning is that you only get the OTP "good deal" because something bad happened to you previously - trip CNX, SUB that you denied, etc. OTP is a good faith effort to make sure that guys that got hosed don't lose pay.

Unfortunately the OTP churning loophole is being abused now. And I suspect that there is more than than that going on.

Also, don't mock kwri10s checklist. He has it nailed, especially the penultimate line.

Keep posting these trips. I know one of the abusers and I plan on having a little talk with him. Since he blocks his calender, he probably thought he was flying under the radar. I'm going to tell him that I heard he was "Buddy ********ing" his union brothers and that his trips are all over PFC. Peer pressure is the only way these guys will stop and I would've never known had those trips not been posted.

Why not post the actual OTP loophole so we can all use it? In its current state, this is nothing more than screwing your bros.

His trip is not "all over PFC" until his name is posted on PFC. I don't understand why that's not happened yet, because not everyone reads PFC and even if they do, I'd bet that most are not motivated to do the required research (looking up that specific trip) to get the individuals' name. However, if that name was readily available, well that might be a different thing.