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Kforekyle , 12-11-2015 07:27 AM
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Don't get insulted if you are an FO making 4 year cap pay. Attracting New hire pilots gets you to 8 year CA pay which is much higher than any 8 year FO pay would ever be. I realize that what has happened in the industry over the last 10 years has left a bitter taste in everyone's mouth but let's focus on the future. The future is lots of movement to the majors and getting the Regional FO longevity back down to under three years. If we give a New Hire a 10k bonus and it means an 8 year capped FO gets a 40k raise isn't that the kind of deal you would want. If your position is screw the upgrade let this place shut its doors then you should just move on to somewhere else and get out of the way since you don't care about the success of Endeavor anyway. Bottom line keep things in perspective. Endeavor is now a growing airline.
I dont agree with compensating just one section of the pilot group and not the other. It is a group. When We took concessions, they did not leave out the fo group. We all took a hit. There are other ways to attract pilots to this company. Just look at Envoy.
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madeinUSA , 12-11-2015 07:29 AM
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Union update,

The MEC will travel to the Minneapolis ALPA Office tomorrow, December 11, for a Special Meeting. The Negotiating Committee expects to complete its work with the company on a tentative agreement regarding the Mutual Benefit Package that has been under development for the past several months. Included in this package are:

· Restoration of 150% premium pay for all open time
· 100% deadhead pay
· Increase in vacation pay from 2.5 hours per day to 3.5 hours per day
· Premium pay for pilots enabling Max Line Range
· Parking stipend for commuters
· Company paid hotel room for pilots rescheduled to overnight in their domicile
· Improved early release provisions for reserves
· Reserve ability to commute during the call out period on the first day of a reserve sequence
· Reserve pilot waiver of domicile rest to allow last day super seniority for RRA
· Earlier bid timelines for line pilots and FTIs
· Ability for pilots to convert an end of trip deadhead to domicile to a deadhead home
· Increase in open time to alleviate or eliminate PBS credit push
· Increase in pilot retention payments

In exchange, pilots would report 15 minutes earlier in outstations, and the company would have the ability to withhold a limited number of pairings from bidding to accomplish OE flying. The company would also increase first year First Officer wages and offer a completion of training bonus to new pilots in order to ensure the staffing necessary to support the growth plan upon which this package is based. Watch for further updates from the MEC as they meet this weekend.
Ha! What a joke of a union. We all want our pre bankruptcy contract reinstated. Its that easy. All this little BS is laughable. Alpa has the most negotiating capital they have ever had and they are asking for crap!
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CFin , 12-11-2015 09:08 AM
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Ha! What a joke of a union. We all want our pre bankruptcy contract reinstated. Its that easy. All this little BS is laughable. Alpa has the most negotiating capital they have ever had and they are asking for crap!
What were the pay scales for the pre-bankruptcy contract?
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madeinUSA , 12-11-2015 09:13 AM
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What were the pay scales for the pre-bankruptcy contract?
30% average higher.
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Don't get insulted if you are an FO making 4 year cap pay. Attracting New hire pilots gets you to 8 year CA pay which is much higher than any 8 year FO pay would ever be. I realize that what has happened in the industry over the last 10 years has left a bitter taste in everyone's mouth but let's focus on the future. The future is lots of movement to the majors and getting the Regional FO longevity back down to under three years. If we give a New Hire a 10k bonus and it means an 8 year capped FO gets a 40k raise isn't that the kind of deal you would want. If your position is screw the upgrade let this place shut its doors then you should just move on to somewhere else and get out of the way since you don't care about the success of Endeavor anyway. Bottom line keep things in perspective. Endeavor is now a growing airline.
We've been down this road before - when was it that things were going to "flip" according to flight ops? Two years ago? All per-merger FO's were suppose to be captains by now. The notion that the company wants to just raise first year pay is insulting to the whole pilot group. This has nothing to do with wanting Endeavor to succeed or not succeed, first year FO's are already the highest paid in the industry. That isn't getting them in the door? Then raise everyone's pay the same dollar amount. Not just a subsection of pilots - ridiculous that this idea is even being entertained.
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There are a lot of gives from the company on this proposal which means it is something they want badly and something that saves them money.

I will vote for something that collectively raises First Officer pay - something that has been a zit on this segment of the industry. I personally do not necessarily need see gains in CA pay. I'm not championing this proposal, rather, stating opinion from my seat.

One thing is certain - the regional industry is not what it was in 2008. It is changing from every aspect. We have to be open to changing with it.
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There are a lot of gives from the company on this proposal which means it is something they want badly and something that saves them money.

I will vote for something that collectively raises First Officer pay - something that has been a zit on this segment of the industry. I personally do not necessarily need see gains in CA pay. I'm not championing this proposal, rather, stating opinion from my seat.

One thing is certain - the regional industry is not what it was in 2008. It is changing from every aspect. We have to be open to changing with it.
I will gladly vote down a pay raise if it's just for FO's. All or none! Sorry
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Union update,

The MEC will travel to the Minneapolis ALPA Office tomorrow, December 11, for a Special Meeting. The Negotiating Committee expects to complete its work with the company on a tentative agreement regarding the Mutual Benefit Package that has been under development for the past several months. Included in this package are:

· Restoration of 150% premium pay for all open time
· 100% deadhead pay
· Increase in vacation pay from 2.5 hours per day to 3.5 hours per day
· Premium pay for pilots enabling Max Line Range
· Parking stipend for commuters
· Company paid hotel room for pilots rescheduled to overnight in their domicile
· Improved early release provisions for reserves
· Reserve ability to commute during the call out period on the first day of a reserve sequence
· Reserve pilot waiver of domicile rest to allow last day super seniority for RRA
· Earlier bid timelines for line pilots and FTIs
· Ability for pilots to convert an end of trip deadhead to domicile to a deadhead home
· Increase in open time to alleviate or eliminate PBS credit push
· Increase in pilot retention payments

In exchange, pilots would report 15 minutes earlier in outstations, and the company would have the ability to withhold a limited number of pairings from bidding to accomplish OE flying. The company would also increase first year First Officer wages and offer a completion of training bonus to new pilots in order to ensure the staffing necessary to support the growth plan upon which this package is based. Watch for further updates from the MEC as they meet this weekend.
Haven't posted here in awhile, no longer at 9E and I am on to greener pastures....but

This sort of email sounds like the same old Union and same old 9E.
Loophole Maximumus...beware to all my 9E brothers and sisters still there.
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The $$ will determine the acceptance.

Email should be out tonight.
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15-06 initial is out, congratulations to all new CAs.
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