OUCH.......

Let's hope for 10 year fences.

Just saw the numbers broken down, the American group wants 4500 of the top 4800 spots! Comical! These clowns are delusional!

And the bottom 1500 was all LUS LAW. 99-03 hires I think?

It's pretty pathetic, they want to slot in at a 1 to 5 the eagle flows that were given class dates AFTER the merger announcement.

They want their furloughs ABOVE a few thousand pre-merger east, west and third listers. The only "AA" guys integrated into the list were the eagle flow hired AFTER the merger.

Not surprised the AAholes are trying to pull their staple job again. Good thing for the rest of us they won't be able to do it this time.

The west proposed list is probably more reality based, at least towards the bottom of the list.

First of all let me admit I was wrong on wether the aa sli committee would get involved in the east/west issue and use names. I was very wrong, the aa committee went off the rails on an epic overreach that would likely make the east pilots blush. Now funny thing is usapa forgot all about doh and has me junior to east pilots hired almost a full year after me, what happened to the gold standard? Now the amr proposal has me, a 757 captain, next to a very junior aa md80 fo hired years after me.

Where did you find the East list? I don't see it on the APA site.

Straight from west committee, doh is out the window with usapa's proposal. In my case I, a never furloughed west captain is junior to a east fo hired a year after me and furloughed for 5 years.

APA's list is laughable.

Not much different than usapa's. The guy immediately senior to me was hired more than a year after me and is a junior fo on the apa's proposal, very close to usapa's. Did I mention I'm a never furloughed captain?

Btw just so I won't start another thread, I was also wrong about apa not taking stand on the Nic. They sure as heck came out swinging at not only the Nic. but everything else. Truly a proposal from someone who is used to dictating results.