The FPL folks from the Plantation aren't allowed to review facts. If Delta wants you to know something, they post it on the DeltaNet (TASS)

The Plantation - what's that mean?

Denny - maybe this will explain it.

Scoop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG-VB5xb6KM

There is more to the story. UAL does not get an automatic pay jump in pay rate differences. It is a blend of PS and rate so you capture the % of total value. So the sales job UAL bought from ALPA is no different just wait till you see what your actual real dollar value of your pay raise is. Your profit sharing is really not great, granted better than a lot not even close to DAL value. It is all about details, UAL has its continental drag and scabs, the huge amount of debt and employee discontent etc. so one has to just look at what they can control, a yes or no vote on what is in front of them. Dont worry about pilot groups that have nothing to do with you or your contract.

This guy isn't as bad as "Sunvox". LOVE IT when that dude comes around here lecturing us on our contract.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good lecture.

Either way (and thank you for pointing that out), paybrates that are within a few percent of each other is not industry leading. It is in line with current industry wages. We are going to be right in line with UAL. Well, unless you average how many pilots fly higher paying wages at UAL than at Delta.

Unless of course you throw in a better profit sharing program and 3% more DC money. When is their parity review?

I've said on here a number of times, I agree your PS is better because of DC. I completely agree! We have the same basic formula as DAL otherwise. Our DC has been 16% for many many years. DAL is making more income so your PS check is bigger. We fly our own ULH vs a JV and the company makes less doing it with our own metal. (We fly more 4 pilot routes than DAL and AMR combined).

I've never once even hinted that you guys should vote one way or another. It's your company, your contract. I have simply interjected when facts where thrown out that weren't true with regard to my company and our contract.

The rates I posted earlier were from our ALPA site based on your TA if it passes.

I'm happy for United pilots having the snap up and if your info posted is correct, also happy for you to exceed our rates. Good for United.

The list I posted will be the highest if we ratify. The retro will make them the highest for all of 2016.

What you wrote above is not correct. Our profits sharing formulas are different.

United's 10%/20% split is at 6.9% operating margin. Ours is at $2.5 Billion of pre-tax income. If our companies were smaller and more profitable, your formula would be better. But they aren't. As revenue size increases, given the same operating margin, the Delta formula gradually gets better and better. At our current size and and for a similar level of profitability the Delta formula is about 30% better. Because we are a more profitable company, it is slightly better than that.