Spirit of NKS, Part III - Page 50 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

#491

Cruise , 12-24-2016 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

Uh, essentially I do. I work at a wholly owned with a guaranteed job there as soon as my flow number comes up.

Hahahaha...ok, off to the ignore list for you. Have fun!

#492

Silver02ex , 12-24-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

Uh, essentially I do. I work at a wholly owned with a guaranteed job there as soon as my flow number comes up.

That's funny, you should ask some of the older Mesaba guys how well their guaranteed flow worked out. Instead, they were sold, dragged through a BK for a 2nd time.

#493

AirbusA321Pilot , 12-24-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

You guys keep on beotching and whining about your crappy contract, bottom of the barrel pay and making lists ratting each other out. Sounds like rats desperately trying to get off a sinking ship.

Meanwhile at Envoy....we just keep flowing.

One question Dacuj. You keep talking about the flow to American, so is the flow guaranteed, will Envoy put that in writing?

#494

gonyon , 12-24-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by malibu34

I hate the Fly your line narrative..... It's to myopic. It takes no account into improving ones line to make better use of ones time or getting days off needed. Not to mention picking up something to offset a drop elsewhere falls outside that scope too.

As a commuter, I flica the snot out of my line throughout the month. If I can make better use of my time, my commute and days off you are damn right I'm gong to do it. If my line credit doesn't equal my award that's not something to have to defend to the internet. I don't go for more work when able. And if I can swap a straight time trip for something high credit low block in the same or less footprint, I take that as more work the company needs to cover anyway.

There is unity we need to grow, but a one size fits all to fly your line isn't the right approach.

I think your scenario fits in the "fly your line" narrative. I am pretty sure everyone would agree.

#495

gonyon , 12-24-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

So you are saying you would rather work for Spirit than the largest major airline in the world? Seems like the idiot here isn't me. Check your mirror to find one.

Have a lot of friends at American. It is he one legacy that many do not want to work for. Sorry bud that golden carrot ain't actually made of gold

#496

Dacuj , 12-24-2016 10:58 AM

Banned

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Originally Posted by AirbusA321Pilot

One question Dacuj. You keep talking about the flow to American, so is the flow guaranteed, will Envoy put that in writing?

Yep. They already have. It's in the contract.

#497

PikeAV8R , 12-24-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IWalkJun12

Turned down two JA's past two days. Let it burn.

Don't worry there are plenty of people picking up your slack.

#498

Al Czervik , 12-24-2016 11:50 AM

You scratched my anchor

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

Uh, essentially I do. I work at a wholly owned with a guaranteed job there as soon as my flow number comes up.

Please check the attitude before flowing. We are all in this mess together. Better conditions at Spirit mean better conditions here at American or Delta or UAL. You'll understand eventually.... I hope.

#499

ShyGuy , 12-24-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik

That doesn't work for the pattern bargaining environment when the economy is good. The better contract/pay/QOL that came at AA, then UA, and then DL (respectively in order) happened regardless of the conditions at Spirit. In a good environment those contracts help the LCC ask for more, and vice versa when the economy tanks the legacies will come for concessions to mirror more LCC stuff.

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AirbusA321Pilot , 12-24-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dacuj

Yep. They already have. It's in the contract.

Would like to see that, can you post it?