Pay Comparison
02-09-2018, 09:16 AM
#11
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[QUOTE=epicadv;2523731]
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
In it's day, you would have to say it was one of the best. But that day was long ago. Sadly we are so far back on the compensation curve that I would never believe we could ever get close to the others.
Our training that I would have put on par with some of the majors has massively diminished. Huge moves to cut costs has put the burden on the student to self learn much via home study. Although the systems test has been dumbed down and most pass.
Our technology front is a leading effort if the year was 1995' Simply put itis incredibly unreliable. The day they put the MX can on these POS units will be a sick day for me, for sure! Read= investor confidence drop.
Credit to block loss is 5.9%, subtract that from our hourly pay when comparing to all the others.
I could go on, and on.......
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
In it's day, you would have to say it was one of the best. But that day was long ago. Sadly we are so far back on the compensation curve that I would never believe we could ever get close to the others.
Our training that I would have put on par with some of the majors has massively diminished. Huge moves to cut costs has put the burden on the student to self learn much via home study. Although the systems test has been dumbed down and most pass.
Our technology front is a leading effort if the year was 1995' Simply put itis incredibly unreliable. The day they put the MX can on these POS units will be a sick day for me, for sure! Read= investor confidence drop.
Credit to block loss is 5.9%, subtract that from our hourly pay when comparing to all the others.
I could go on, and on.......
02-09-2018, 11:22 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by epicadv
I'm trying to make a simple comparison table of expected annual pay for an inexperienced FO (no ATP or type ratings) starting at a regional. Following is the table I have using the information available here at APC using 75 hours monthly.
SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
Code:
Airline $/hr Annual @ Yr 1 Total
75 / mon Bonus Yr 1
================================================
Air Wisconsin 36 32400 49000 81400
Trans State Air 36.35 32715 30000 62715
GoJet 37 33300 26000 59300
SkyWest 37 33300 0 33300
Recruitment #s are down and attrition is up and their day as the place to be has passed for the moment.
It’s not a bad place to work for if you live close to one of their bases... otherwise you can find places that pay more and/or have better career pathways.
02-15-2018, 01:05 PM
#14
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I'm getting close to jumping into the regional chaos, and can say OO hasn't even been on my radar due to the abysmal pay...and I live in a Jr. OO base. AWAC or Envoy are currently topping my list. Lots can change in 6 months though.
03-23-2018, 02:45 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by trip
Don't know about having to pay back anything.
I did hear SAPA is trying to knock it out of the park with this new round of "negotiations". 5%/3%/3%
I did hear SAPA is trying to knock it out of the park with this new round of "negotiations". 5%/3%/3%
03-23-2018, 03:13 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by trip
Don't know about having to pay back anything.
I did hear SAPA is trying to knock it out of the park with this new round of "negotiations". 5%/3%/3%
I did hear SAPA is trying to knock it out of the park with this new round of "negotiations". 5%/3%/3%
I’m so fed up with management and how this place is slowly going down the tubes that the only thing I’ll vote yes on is ALPA.
Death by a thousand cuts!
03-23-2018, 03:17 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by epicadv
I'm trying to make a simple comparison table of expected annual pay for an inexperienced FO (no ATP or type ratings) starting at a regional. Following is the table I have using the information available here at APC using 75 hours monthly.
SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
SkyWest appears to be quite the outlier. I've asked a SkyWest recruiter if there are any bonuses in the future. The answer is "probably not for inexperienced folks" because "they have no trouble filling classes as is." This is a pretty big difference between regionals. One would expect the market to force equalization. I don't understand why it does not.
Is SkyWest really that much better of a place to work?
Code:
Airline $/hr Annual @ Yr 1 Total
75 / mon Bonus Yr 1
================================================
Air Wisconsin 36 32400 49000 81400
Trans State Air 36.35 32715 30000 62715
GoJet 37 33300 26000 59300
SkyWest 37 33300 0 33300
Even besides the huge pay difference!
Also, first year SkyWest pay is really $36.50
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