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Old 03-21-2018, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust View Post
Pay: CP pays more & it’s block or better
Benefits: OO has better travel & HC, CP pays for parking & 4 hotels per month
Uniforms: CP has hats, OO has namebars
Movement: OO has lifers, CP does not
Hotels: OO has nicer hotels
Scheduling: CP has better work rules
Stability: OO is more stable
Culture: CP is younger
Union: CP is ALPA
Better work rules? Do tell. Can’t really argue with the rest.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:49 PM
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OO has LGA
CP does NOT have LGA
One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

Fair enough:

OO Has 3-4 mo ON RESERVE at LGA
CP does not

That better?
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Old 03-22-2018, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zondaracer View Post
One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.
La Guardia is no Man's treasure.
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Old 03-22-2018, 06:51 AM
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La Guardia is no Man's treasure.

The standing bid list would suggest otherwise.. and thats for just a reserve line!!!
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:13 AM
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La Guardia is no Man's treasure.
30+ Captains with it as their first choice to transfer/transition or upgrade and 160+ total willing to go there in the left seat. LGA left seat won't be going to new hires.

The FO side only has enough with their bid in to staff the initial opening for the 6 reserve slots.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:40 AM
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Compass 6 Upgrades a month. SkyWest just posted 30 ERJ and 37 CRJ Upgrades for next month..
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:14 AM
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Compass 6 Upgrades a month. SkyWest just posted 30 ERJ and 37 CRJ Upgrades for next month..
In fairness, Skywest 4500 pilots, Compass 650 pilots, which somewhat offsets those numbers, although clearly the FO shortage has rather dramatically slowed Compass upgrades. On the other hand, the FOs being hired today are promptly working their tails off, not sitting reserve. And with relatively few lifers, Compass will likely need to throttle upgrades right back up as a lot of the guys with 1000 hrs of TPIC go off to the majors this summer, assuming they survive the FO shortage. By the time a new hire gets a thousand hours of 121 time to qualify for upgrade things are likely to have drastically changed - one way or another.
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The standing bid list would suggest otherwise.. and thats for just a reserve line!!!
lol a point. The commute may be easier, but I can't imagine anyone actually thinks it's a treasure.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
In fairness, Skywest 4500 pilots, Compass 650 pilots, which somewhat offsets those numbers, although clearly the FO shortage has rather dramatically slowed Compass upgrades. On the other hand, the FOs being hired today are promptly working their tails off, not sitting reserve. And with relatively few lifers, Compass will likely need to throttle upgrades right back up as a lot of the guys with 1000 hrs of TPIC go off to the majors this summer, assuming they survive the FO shortage. By the time a new hire gets a thousand hours of 121 time to qualify for upgrade things are likely to have drastically changed - one way or another.
Dude. You are the ultimate troll. Aren’t you the one who started the “do the math” thread over in the Compass forums? Are you just trying to **** everyone off?
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:00 PM
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Dude. You are the ultimate troll. Aren’t you the one who started the “do the math” thread over in the Compass forums? Are you just trying to **** everyone off?
Why would giving what I believe to be an objective analysis **** everyone off. I opined on the Compass forum that throttling back captain upgrades due to the shortage of FOs would deter some candidates from going there and irritate senior Compass FOs. I stand by that analysis. The latest TA had approved TSH to use right seat captains as an interim fix for the FO shortage which would - in my opinion - have been a more expensive but better method of dealing with that shortfall. While I would concede you undoubtedly have more 121 experience than I do, such things as employee relations and recruiting issues are basic management functions, hardly unique to the 121 world. Posting advertisements touting "18-24 month upgrades" while throttling back to eight upgrades a month certainly presents some challenges to the recruiters in the competition for new hires that can successfully complete their type rating efficiently. And pretty much ALL regionals seem to be having more difficulty getting their new hires through training than they once did, based upon the postings in a number of these threads. But again, I was voicing an OPINION, one that could be accepted, debated, or entirely ignored, especially since it doesn't seem like anyone posting there (or here) had the ability to actually affect that decision one way or another.

As for the current comment I made that you are apparently castigating me for, what is your problem?

The guy compared a NUMBER of six upgrades a month (last I heard it was eight) for one company with 650 pilots to the NUMBER he claims are being upgraded by a second company that has 4500 pilots as if that were a fair comparison. It isn't. The appropriate comparison is the RATE of upgrades for FOs in the two companies.

I simply pointed out that this was not really a fair comparison and doing it that way unfairly disadvantaged Compass.

Now you may or may not agree with my opinion, and you are entirely free to rebut it or provide your own analysis or opinion, or just not read my posts at all. But how you determined from the above posting that I was somehow trying to **** you off is beyond me.

I'd appreciate an explanation.
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