I had Jon Graff as a new-hire too.

DD had one!

I'm so sick of hearing the "0% raise in 2019" BS. You're essentially getting your 2019 raise several months early and it's significant.

With 2018 basically over you should be comparing the new rate to the 2019 rate under the current agreement. It's still a good increase for most. If you are topped out on the scale not so much.

The 1.5% for 2020, and 1% for 2021 and 2022, will lag behind inflation. Combine that with increasing health care cost and it's an even bigger loss. Not that a lot of you give a **** about that.

Agreed, under this new TA doesn't a 4 year FO go up like $12/hr. or more? I would rather have that starting in November and not get an increase in 2019 over the 50 cents an hour a 4 year FO will get in 2019. One of those options makes A LOT more money than the other. The math is quite simple.

In other words, screw new hires, it’s all about me. Sounds pretty greedy to me.

I’m happy for my friends at Skywest. This seems like a good deal and I’m glad it sounds like it will pass.

Anyone that believes any pay agreement we make these days goes the full length is delusional.

And vice versa, in other words, new folks today say screw the old guys and gals today, its all about me. That also sounds pretty greedy to me. New folks better get to leave so follow on new folks in a few years don't say screw them as the old hires.
Funny how that chapter plays forward repeatedly.
And this is how any union won't make it on Skywest property. Management is thrilled. All about me is management win. Zero strategic discipline.

No, it's screw people who have not been hired yet. No pilot group is a charity chartered to enhance industry opportunities for wannabees. If you want to do that, volunteer at young eagles or CAP on your days off.

Recruiting is the company's problem and expense, and the wannabees can vote with their feet.

Now with all that said it might actually be in the best interest of the lifers to help incentivize recruiting, since hiring is about to REALLY get going if the economy keeps humming along, and they haven't yet authorized single-pilot RJ ops. Given that I would be OK with a hefty bonus option for noobs as long as I got something tooo.

Absolute NO vote.

Why?

This entire package is postured to bringing people here at the true expense of those here longer than 6 or so years. First of all is the signing bonus of 40 Grand and the potential of the same person getting an additional 20 Grand reimbursement for their flight training. Every dollar given to people not even here has to come from somewhere, as a result your bonuses will be reduced. (another reason they will not hard fix the hourly scales) I seem to recall all the years where all they could spend was 1 percent, that's it! Now all of a sudden we are flush with cash but still will not spend it on those here, especially the ones with 15 or more years. Don't kid yourself, this package doesn't even keep up with the Cost Of Living projected increases.

So there's one NO reason.

The 87 hours for 130% garbage, this is entangled with so many hoops to get through it is amazing! And you know the company didn't see right through this to build lines with less hours. Remember this 87 hour value has to be in PBS, it's the only way you'll get it. You can't trade up or pick up and get it. And as soon as the lines start getting close to 87 hours they will just turn reserves into line holders and dilute the value to less. The company isn't stupid and now there will be less reserves if you want a day off (ha). If you are not aware how easily the company can manipulate and sway PBS, wake up. Ask the No. 1 in your domicile how they don't get what they bid for: Company Need, in this case lines with less than 87 hours.

Another NO.

Strategic planning. For the pilots, should we finally get our act together and unionize, the company could sit on this TA for years before they decided to talk. With this package, the company has all they need for at least 5 years, maybe 10. If we vote this down and then vote in a union the company will need to get a contract out quickly. Now we would have an opportunity to get industry leading pay scales AND livable work rules! The company didn't come back to the table early because of good will (those days are long gone), they came back because they had too. They have to have what the other airlines offer to new hires.

Why shouldn't those already here get the same thing? I understand it would quickly help some new FO's but think past today or even tomorrow, think 2 or 3 or 4 years from now.

Another big NO.

Now don't get me started on the Credit or better vs. Block or better garbage.

We deserve more, we deserve better.