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Old 01-03-2019 | 10:22 AM
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First time regional pilot, offers from both, desire to be based in TX asap. Beyond that not much preference.

Pros / Cons of each?


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Old 01-03-2019 | 11:49 AM
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Do you have any friends at Envoy that can tell you how many pilots have been terminated there?
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Old 01-03-2019 | 11:56 AM
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I am as well Texas based. I went to SkyWest bc didn’t wanna commute to reserve for LGA. I heard some guys fly 300 hours there first year at Envoy


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Old 01-03-2019 | 12:03 PM
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Decent chance of being Texas based at Envoy lately, depends on when your class would be.
New hires haven’t gotten LGA in a while, lately 175/145 with ORD/DFW choice. Depends on how old you are too though, If low 20s can get stuck on the CRJ in ORD IF there are CRJ slots in the class - which happened exactly once since April of 2018.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
Decent chance of being Texas based at Envoy lately, depends on when your class would be.
New hires haven’t gotten LGA in a while, lately 175/145 with ORD/DFW choice. Depends on how old you are too though, If low 20s can get stuck on the CRJ in ORD IF there are CRJ slots in the class - which happened exactly once since April of 2018.

Thanks - i'm 43.
Envoy has early Feb class, Skywest has April class.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair
Thanks - i'm 43.
Envoy has early Feb class, Skywest has April class.
You should have a good chance of picking what you want at Envoy.
See how the three January classes play out - that's not a guarantee of how the February will go, but still.
Either way, plenty of time to get opinions and compare the two. If you do go to Skywest, I'd recommend giving Envoy a polite heads up vs noshowing to the class (and same the other way around)
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Old 01-03-2019 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BigZ
You should have a good chance of picking what you want at Envoy.
See how the three January classes play out - that's not a guarantee of how the February will go, but still.
Either way, plenty of time to get opinions and compare the two. If you do go to Skywest, I'd recommend giving Envoy a polite heads up vs noshowing to the class (and same the other way around)


Appreciate the replies - i know these "xx vs. xy" are irritating, unanswerable questions. It kinda seems like these two are pretty comparable from a newb perspective, esp if flying 175 out of DFW for both.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair
Appreciate the replies - i know these "xx vs. xy" are irritating, unanswerable questions. It kinda seems like these two are pretty comparable from a newb perspective, esp if flying 175 out of DFW for both.
I will tell you that a buddy of mine went to envoy last year and spent 6 months at ORD and barely got any hours...
So he went to the DFW base to be closer to home for/shorter commute.
He got even less hours at DFW...
So now he's commuting all the way to LGA just to get hours because it was going to take him a few years to even get close to an upgrade.

I can't speak to the OO DFW schedule, but my buddy told me not to go to envoy if i wanted to be based in TX.

Take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair
Appreciate the replies - i know these "xx vs. xy" are irritating, unanswerable questions. It kinda seems like these two are pretty comparable from a newb perspective, esp if flying 175 out of DFW for both.
Skywest pays about $16/hr more as a NH than a Envoy does as a Maxed out FO. Flow is so long at all the AA WOs currently it shouldn’t even be a consideration for most. You’ll be working for lower wages until between 50 and 55 at the earliest if you wait to flow.
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Old 01-04-2019 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChappieSinclair
Thanks - i'm 43.
Envoy has early Feb class, Skywest has April class.
Are you trying for the 175 or crj? I am surprised to hear soonest class is April for Skywest. If you want DFW at Skywest do the crj
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