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01-25-2020 | 06:57 AM
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01-25-2020 | 07:22 AM
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No, incorrect.
the previous poster was correct in saying PBS does not strictly adhere to seniority. It is a function of our software. No matter how well you know the system the system can need you to do something else.
The PBS guide is a far cry from a comprehensive guide to how it acts, especially as your seniority varies.
The best pbs mitigation is to gain seniority. Bidding properties and days off is very straight forward. Ambiguous “constraints” and random coverage dates should anger anyone in a seniority based system. As someone once said, “which days don’t need to be covered”.
the previous poster was correct in saying PBS does not strictly adhere to seniority. It is a function of our software. No matter how well you know the system the system can need you to do something else.
The PBS guide is a far cry from a comprehensive guide to how it acts, especially as your seniority varies.
The best pbs mitigation is to gain seniority. Bidding properties and days off is very straight forward. Ambiguous “constraints” and random coverage dates should anger anyone in a seniority based system. As someone once said, “which days don’t need to be covered”.
01-25-2020 | 07:48 AM
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Numerous questions to the PBS helpline and postings on the FB page would suggest that this is not the case.
Are there times when someone junior got something you wanted? Sure, but in each that I’ve seen it’s been because the senior person didn’t wasn’t legal for the trip in question, had constraints which prevented them from being awarded the trip, or simply didn’t understand what “avoid reserve” actually did. The natural tendency is to then blame the system, of course, but seeing something awarded as PN is a red flag that the user didn’t bid as effectively as they could have. What about coverage dates? Those don’t necessarily honor seniority but again knowing how to use PBS effectively helps mitigates that.
Hawk21 is likely correct in his observation, and I agree with him.
Are there times when someone junior got something you wanted? Sure, but in each that I’ve seen it’s been because the senior person didn’t wasn’t legal for the trip in question, had constraints which prevented them from being awarded the trip, or simply didn’t understand what “avoid reserve” actually did. The natural tendency is to then blame the system, of course, but seeing something awarded as PN is a red flag that the user didn’t bid as effectively as they could have. What about coverage dates? Those don’t necessarily honor seniority but again knowing how to use PBS effectively helps mitigates that.
Hawk21 is likely correct in his observation, and I agree with him.
01-25-2020 | 09:38 AM
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Can’t comment on the PBS system but the post you’re calling “garbage” also mentioned upgrades and transitions outside of seniority. I have several acquaintances at Skywest who have told me how they have been been denied a transition or granted an upgrade outside of seniority. Not sure how common that is, but based on the amount of people I know at Skywest and the number of times I’ve heard about the company working outside of seniority, I assumed it wasn’t uncommon. Maybe someone could correct me on that.
01-25-2020 | 11:08 AM
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Numerous questions to the PBS helpline and postings on the FB page would suggest that this is not the case.
Are there times when someone junior got something you wanted? Sure, but in each that I’ve seen it’s been because the senior person didn’t wasn’t legal for the trip in question, had constraints which prevented them from being awarded the trip, or simply didn’t understand what “avoid reserve” actually did. The natural tendency is to then blame the system, of course, but seeing something awarded as PN is a red flag that the user didn’t bid as effectively as they could have. What about coverage dates? Those don’t necessarily honor seniority but again knowing how to use PBS effectively helps mitigates that.
Hawk21 is likely correct in his observation, and I agree with him.
Are there times when someone junior got something you wanted? Sure, but in each that I’ve seen it’s been because the senior person didn’t wasn’t legal for the trip in question, had constraints which prevented them from being awarded the trip, or simply didn’t understand what “avoid reserve” actually did. The natural tendency is to then blame the system, of course, but seeing something awarded as PN is a red flag that the user didn’t bid as effectively as they could have. What about coverage dates? Those don’t necessarily honor seniority but again knowing how to use PBS effectively helps mitigates that.
Hawk21 is likely correct in his observation, and I agree with him.
Good luck.
01-25-2020 | 11:08 AM
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Can’t comment on the PBS system but the post you’re calling “garbage” also mentioned upgrades and transitions outside of seniority. I have several acquaintances at Skywest who have told me how they have been been denied a transition or granted an upgrade outside of seniority. Not sure how common that is, but based on the amount of people I know at Skywest and the number of times I’ve heard about the company working outside of seniority, I assumed it wasn’t uncommon. Maybe someone could correct me on that.
01-25-2020 | 02:56 PM
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01-26-2020 | 03:25 AM
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Hey Everyone!
I got a CJO from SkyWest, I live an hour west of Boston. They told me I'd be going for ERJ training mid to end of March. How does commuting work? I seriously went through the presentation, and then walked out, and blanked out on everything. What's the reserve call out? 2 hours? Long short? Does anyone else commute from the New England area?
I have so many questions. (some probably very stupid questions)
Also I'm totally new to anything airlines.
Thanks
I got a CJO from SkyWest, I live an hour west of Boston. They told me I'd be going for ERJ training mid to end of March. How does commuting work? I seriously went through the presentation, and then walked out, and blanked out on everything. What's the reserve call out? 2 hours? Long short? Does anyone else commute from the New England area?
I have so many questions. (some probably very stupid questions)
Also I'm totally new to anything airlines.
Thanks
Commuting - You get on a plane and go to your base ideally the day before your reserve. You can utilize your actual flight benefits or jumpseat. You’ll have both available by the time you graduate training (they technically kick in before that).
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