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Old 05-14-2019, 02:45 PM
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Anyone have a current pulse on how often there are no shows in the ERJ classes?
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:55 PM
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Can’t speak for ERJ classes. But CRJ is 0-4 per class (thats on a class size of 55-60). I would guess the ERJ is low 1-2 ( class size of 20-30) do to the SJS that’s involved with that aircraft... i will ask around this week see if i can get a better ERJ answer..
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:49 PM
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If you're thinking of showing up as a standby, I'd say do it. A week or a month can make a huge difference in your career, as I found out the hard way years ago.
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If you're thinking of showing up as a standby, I'd say do it. A week or a month can make a huge difference in your career, as I found out the hard way years ago.
He speaks the truth. I'd say call your recruiter every so month and ask if a closer class date is available.

The guy I sat next to in my class was 1 seniority below me. After completion of training and IOE we went to the same base. I was only Reserve for 1 month and he ended up sitting reserve for 6. A lot of people always say how great seniority it is, but you never realize how much it matters until you get to an airline and realize how much it literally affects your QoL and pay. You never know how it is going to fall. It may not matter at all or you could fall 1 slot lower and be sitting there for months.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:43 PM
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With systemwide training backups a lot of people are applying to - and getting accepted at - multiple regionals. Simultaneously swimming in multiple pools, often they’ll just take the first class date they get, leaving vacancies in one or more future classes at the other places they were accepted. If you are flexible enough to jump in to one of these, it can seriously shorten your own waiting time.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
If you're thinking of showing up as a standby, I'd say do it. A week or a month can make a huge difference in your career, as I found out the hard way years ago.
My buddy waited a month, instead of going to the same class I went to, in order to spend some time at home wrapping things up and it cost him 100 seniority numbers.
1 month = 100 numbers right now if not more
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
With systemwide training backups a lot of people are applying to - and getting accepted at - multiple regionals. Simultaneously swimming in multiple pools, often they’ll just take the first class date they get, leaving vacancies in one or more future classes at the other places they were accepted. If you are flexible enough to jump in to one of these, it can seriously shorten your own waiting time.
Is that what's going on? That's a relief cause I was thinking the shortage is over.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:08 AM
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Is that what's going on? That's a relief cause I was thinking the shortage is over.
Personally, I think the shortage temporarily is over. I think you have a few regionals that have over hired, and now it has folks sitting reserve for as long as a year (not at OO, at least CRJ side), but I’m curious to see how it evolves in the next few months with how large these classes are! I think OO is going to saturate soon as we are over 5000 pilots now and classes of 55 CRJ side .

I’m not an expert by any means in this, and the industry changes rather quickly.
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Originally Posted by Squawkbox2012 View Post
Personally, I think the shortage temporarily is over. I think you have a few regionals that have over hired, and now it has folks sitting reserve for as long as a year (not at OO, at least CRJ side), but I’m curious to see how it evolves in the next few months with how large these classes are! I think OO is going to saturate soon as we are over 5000 pilots now and classes of 55 CRJ side .

I’m not an expert by any means in this, and the industry changes rather quickly.
Mesa has publicly announced they have over hired... that could work out or back fire for the bottom 200. At SkyWest. With the size. They need to hire 100 a month to out pace attrition...
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Originally Posted by amcnd View Post
Can’t speak for ERJ classes. But CRJ is 0-4 per class (thats on a class size of 55-60). I would guess the ERJ is low 1-2 ( class size of 20-30) do to the SJS that’s involved with that aircraft... i will ask around this week see if i can get a better ERJ answer..
So it should be fairly easy to get a spot if you're available short notice (CRJ).
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