UAL and Jumpseats
#21
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Inability to ensure we are following the FOM priority for flight deck access because the gate agent software will now violate it for those particular two groups. Violating the FOM is technically an FAA enforceable violation.
*Just explaining the reasoning given by SAPA and the official letter so don’t shoot the messenger.
*Just explaining the reasoning given by SAPA and the official letter so don’t shoot the messenger.
#23
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I must have missed the comparison. YX/OO are not WO’s and own all their aircraft, UA doesn’t own any of them. The pilot group was decimated at Comair, DL owned the aircraft. So my question is again who would fill the void? That talk is complete nonsense.
#24
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Um no, the software change wouldn’t be in motion in management wasn’t on board. In fact UALPA has been asking for this software update for some time and its gone no where because management hasn’t wanted to spend the money to update the system.
#25
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Skywest Pilots are now not welcome on my XJT jumpseat.
#26
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Why has Expressjet gone along with this they didn’t take a stance to protect there own Jumpseats? Whyonly SkyWest/Repubic.??
#27
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Scott Kirby spoke in very general terms this week (at the United FTC) and stated he would like more control over the the regional product and while it will take time, consolidation into a handful of carriers might be the answer. What that means is anyone’s guess but most of the people in the room heard it as him wanting to grow the exclusive carriers and trim the others. Doesn’t mean it will happen and if MESA, SkyWest or Republic are the best performers it will be hard to justify in my opinion. Jumpseat wars are not productive. We need to support and work well with our regional carriers that support the United operation (in my opinion). It does get fuzzy when some of our regional partners get to declare jumpseat priority on multiple major airlines and their feeders but get upset when United gives exclusive UAX carriers priority on UAL (and the exclusive UAX Airlines). I got a bit of a laugh at the student council’s wording of “violation of FOM” etc and that justifying denial of jumpseats. So, it is a safety issue that you go behind exclusive UAX carriers on United Mainline jumpseats? You guys will always (obviously) have priority on your own jumpseat, not to mention you have priority over all of us on Delta and Alaska so you can use them (2 leg) to commute into your UAL hub to work with “priority “. Not a bad deal!
#29
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We have priority on mainline now over non exclusive UAX carriers. Not only that, XJT Pilots are really tired of Skywest. Your non union carrier grew at our expense. Karma!
#30
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The way it was messaged, supposedly the jumpseat committee at UALPA wouldn’t even talk with or return calls from our jumpseat committee to discuss or negotiate this change. Basically taking the reciprocal and agreement out of “reciprocal agreement “. It was less about the final priority than the fact that we couldn’t discuss it ahead of time and negotiate. It’s hard to parse out exactly what happened but that’s what I’m personally gathering based on the communications, so take it for what it’s worth.
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