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Old 10-11-2019 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
^^^THIS^^^^^^

Skywest was denying on the 200 long before this with their weight and balance “issues”.
Do you really think it’s that personal? You must have never flown the 200. I throw several hundred pounds of ballast in the back sometimes just to get a jumpseater on. And while it’s rare, sometimes you can’t make it work.

Not sure how you guys fly your planes over there but I am not in the business of operating over MTOW or outside CG.
Old 10-11-2019 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
Are you as a non union pilot who’s group is denying me a jumpseat really lecturing me? You Skywest folks are something else.
I have a 5+ year alpa tie pin... I’m very aware of alpa and even expressjet (xjt) alpa.. not lecturing you. Just stating that you seem to take it personally and not from direction from your mec..

PS. I don’t think Jumpseat should ever be used as a bargaining chip. I remember when Delta didn’t even have Jumpseat agreements or ability..
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
Do you really think it’s that personal? You must have never flown the 200. I throw several hundred pounds of ballast in the back sometimes just to get a jumpseater on. And while it’s rare, sometimes you can’t make it work.

Not sure how you guys fly your planes over there but I am not in the business of operating over MTOW or outside CG.
Flown the 200 and could get jumpseaters on. Skywest seems to have more trouble and they don’t seem to even care.
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
I have a 5+ year alpa tie pin... I’m very aware of alpa and even expressjet (xjt) alpa.. not lecturing you. Just stating that you seem to take it personally and not from direction from your mec..

PS. I don’t think Jumpseat should ever be used as a bargaining chip. I remember when Delta didn’t even have Jumpseat agreements or ability..
You now work for the only non union pilot group and you just kicked us off your jumpseat. It is your group that just decided to use the jumpseat as a chip against several pilot groups that don’t have anything to do with this.

Do you really expect us to take you when you won’t take us? What kind of logic is that?
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:24 PM
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So, ual mec just sent out an email saying they never have had a signed agreement with Skywest... better start filling out those fsap /ASAP reports for all the illegal jump seat riders over the years...
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
Flown the 200 and could get jumpseaters on. Skywest seems to have more trouble and they don’t seem to even care.
Oh and I’m guessing Skywest seems to have more troubling with bumping PAX off too right? Because I’m guessing you flew the 200 and never had to do that?
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
You now work for the only non union pilot group and you just kicked us off your jumpseat. It is your group that just decided to use the jumpseat as a chip against several pilot groups that don’t have anything to do with this.

Do you really expect us to take you when you won’t take us? What kind of logic is that?
What about Republic and Mesa guys then?
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
You now work for the only non union pilot group and you just kicked us off your jumpseat. It is your group that just decided to use the jumpseat as a chip against several pilot groups that don’t have anything to do with this.

Do you really expect us to take you when you won’t take us? What kind of logic is that?
I haven’t kicked anyone off a Jumpseat...???
This is the exact reason Jumpseat should have no involvement in this type of issue.. im done. Enjoy bantering back and forth over nothing... im. More upset that UA alla and Sapa has involved pilots in there issue. Should make it to line pilots to deal with. Thats the BS...
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
SAPA talking tough is always great humor. Good luck St George. One armed man in @ss kicking contest comes to mind.
Do you mean “one-legged”? Jesus, you’re as bad as Biff.
Old 10-11-2019 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blockplus
So, ual mec just sent out an email saying they never have had a signed agreement with Skywest... better start filling out those fsap /ASAP reports for all the illegal jump seat riders over the years...
Thats funny. Its posted on the sapa website signed by UA...

Funny. Both sides have inconsistencies. Sapa says they have tried calling UA alpa, UA alpa say they haven’t. UA alpa say skw has never had a Jumpseat agreement with them. Sapa posted the signed UA Jumpseat agreement... this sounds like my kids fighting over the tv remote...
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