EWRflyr

The jumpseat priority list is/maybe an FOM document but it is not a regulatory agreement with the FAA. The FARs state the captain is PIC and controls access to the jumpseat. Each company I've worked for has stated that the captain makes the final determination as to who will occupy the jumpseat. No priority list overrides the PIC so the idea that big brother FAA is going to come down on a pilot for taking a United pilot over a UPS or a Republic pilot is ridiculous dramatic over reaction.

HuskerAv8tor

I commute on SkyWest all the time. My impressions are very favorable. Crews have been friendly, professional and accommodating. I would not like to see that degraded because of a misbegotten policy carried out by a few hotheads. In the end UAL, ALPA and our pilots have the leverage and experience to see this through. This will be at the longterm expense of a good pilot group.

Contrail06

UA guy here.

Honest question, don’t you guys have the same language with Delta pilots? If so why the war with us?

I seem to remember this exact same language when I was at Pinnacle with Delta.

Turbosina

Agreed 1000 percent. While UALPA's move was unfortunate, the reaction from SAPA has been completely overblown. Nobody wins jumpseat wars, and all this will do is make lives miserable for pilots of many airlines who are just trying to get to work or go home. Oh, and this happened with precisely zero input from the OO pilot group. All of us were blindsided by this and I've already talked to four captains (out of five) who have no intent to deny any jumpseat to anyone.

TenaciousB

Well first, the majority of us 5000 pilots just got the news about this in our inboxes and are trying to digest everything through the noise. So far we are being told that both the FO and CA’s certificates could be in jeopardy because if a captain allowed the JS it would violate the FOM given no JS agreement will be in place the 15th.

Second, we haven’t and don’t know if as a pilot group we will get the opportunity to vote to have the JS committee accept or reject the proposed priority.

Third, we have been told by the SAPA reps that UALPA won’t even communicate with them despite them reaching out. So point two may be mute.

This is all new to most of us and we don’t even know if we will get a vote or a say. I know that decisions of a few can have consequences for the whole pilot group but in this case things have happened so fast it feels like there isn’t the time to even sway or influence leadership to go one way or another. It sucks and I hope something gives before the 15th.

Simpsons

When is the next ALPA vote?

Contrail06

So do you guys or do you not have the same type of agreement with Delta? Just asking (Honestly don’t know)

TenaciousB

Granted we may or may not be in a better place to negotiate with our own real MEC but that's neither here nor there, right? Are you SKW, as the progress updates are on the OO ALPA Facebook group.

captive apple

No, Delta wholly owns a regional which they reciprocate with each other. Then ALL non own metal Delta/ DC parties are TOC on Delta Connection. One small difference and one big difference.
SkyWest and wholly owned express jet had the same agreement before the sale.

United wants an Airwisc (exclusive non wholly owned) pilot to have priority on GoJet (non exclusive) jumpseat over a SkyWest guy. This would supersede TOC.

Hawker445

Taking names to eventually bring up to a hiring board over a jumpseat argument?
If someone like that took my name down explicitly for that reason im going to bring a good lawyer.

Keep FOs (that want to move on) out of this for doing what theyre told by their leadership.

Besides, l’m sure the executive branch will be pleased to find out why a larger pool of pilots arent making it through the interview for non skill/personality related reasons while they go to the other competitors.