UAL and Jumpseats
10-13-2019 | 01:27 PM
#202
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You went on a long diatribe about the FOM and its jumpseat priorities and how you're worried about your certificate. Don't be such a moron......the FAA doesn't care about the priorities. Go ask your POI if you need to worry about a violation, he/she will probably laugh at you. Your FOM probably also says you have to show up 1 hour prior to departure. Do you think the FAA is going to violate you if you show up :59 minutes prior to departure. You're the FO every captain dreads flying with.
10-13-2019 | 01:39 PM
#203
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You’re a joke. If you had any inkling about unions, you would understand the reason behind this jumpseat war our union has created. It’s called bargaining and having a backbone. The same thing you did in 1985. What if you went against the union and crossed the picket line? Same concept applies with this situation. Enjoy retirement.
10-13-2019 | 01:43 PM
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Regarding the fom and certificate action. This makes little to no sense.
1. If SAPA/ Skywest management (same thing?) is stating that there is not an agreement with ual and therefore it is against FAR to take a ual jumpseat then why wait until Tuesday? Wouldn’t you have to start denying Jumpseats immediately?
2. If you can’t accept jumpseaters as of Tuesday because of this FOM violation then why doesn’t your company enter an agreement with UAL/XJT/Commutair and amend the fom?
3. If you are goin to deny the jumpseat on principal, you can still that after signing the UAL proposal.
1. If SAPA/ Skywest management (same thing?) is stating that there is not an agreement with ual and therefore it is against FAR to take a ual jumpseat then why wait until Tuesday? Wouldn’t you have to start denying Jumpseats immediately?
2. If you can’t accept jumpseaters as of Tuesday because of this FOM violation then why doesn’t your company enter an agreement with UAL/XJT/Commutair and amend the fom?
3. If you are goin to deny the jumpseat on principal, you can still that after signing the UAL proposal.
10-13-2019 | 01:45 PM
#205
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You went on a long diatribe about the FOM and its jumpseat priorities and how you're worried about your certificate. Don't be such a moron......the FAA doesn't care about the priorities. Go ask your POI if you need to worry about a violation, he/she will probably laugh at you. Your FOM probably also says you have to show up 1 hour prior to departure. Do you think the FAA is going to violate you if you show up :59 minutes prior to departure. You're the FO every captain dreads flying with.
10-13-2019 | 01:47 PM
#206
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Their Management is making it harder for their pilots to get hired by major ALPA carriers. It makes sense. They are desperate to retain pilots.
10-13-2019 | 02:10 PM
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What I want to know is where are the Memes?
This is too good not to have some visuals.
Meme makers get to work!!
This is too good not to have some visuals.
Meme makers get to work!!
10-13-2019 | 02:37 PM
#208
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You’re a joke. If you had any inkling about unions, you would understand the reason behind this jumpseat war our union has created. It’s called bargaining and having a backbone. The same thing you did in 1985. What if you went against the union and crossed the picket line? Same concept applies with this situation. Enjoy retirement.
10-13-2019 | 02:44 PM
#209
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From: CRJ CA
Has anybody contacted the FAA to see what they are telling us about certificate action is real or not?
10-13-2019 | 02:46 PM
#210
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All I care about is that the FOM is accurate. If Jumpseat priority doesn’t matter then it shouldn’t be in the FOM. I’m sure you’re right that the FAA isn’t out looking to find people in noncompliance with their Jumpseat rules. All during school it was always about “Look back at the FOM” and “Look at the SOPM.” Same during IOE. They always said don’t get into habits that violate SOP or FOM. Now there are unwritten rules about what I can just ignore in the FOM? Good grief.
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