UAL and Jumpseats
10-13-2019, 05:11 PM
#231
Gets Rolled on the Reg.
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 274
Originally Posted by CPPfacts
XJT guy should get priority over Republic. We are United exclusive and partially owned by United. Republic guy may be covering AA or DL flying.
So priority on Trans States but not SkyWest as an example.
10-13-2019, 05:14 PM
#232
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by mkitrn
10-13-2019, 05:14 PM
#233
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 185
Originally Posted by 1257
XJT does get priority on an exclusive jumpseat, not on a non-exclusive jumpseat.
So priority on Trans States but not SkyWest as an example.
So priority on Trans States but not SkyWest as an example.
10-13-2019, 05:17 PM
#234
Gets Rolled on the Reg.
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 274
Originally Posted by CPPfacts
So how does that work for a Skywest or Republic Pilot on a United Flight? Who knows who they are flying for? They should go behind XJT. Very simple.
10-13-2019, 05:20 PM
#235
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 185
Originally Posted by 1257
Correct, UAL jumpseat respects exclusive carriers as Delta does.
10-13-2019, 05:25 PM
#236
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 163
Originally Posted by ICUROOK
So a pilot is supposed to violate their FOM because some joker on the internet (you) says it okay? Or should they follow their FOM and avoid any ambiguity whatsoever?
I think I'll choose the latter thank you very much
I think I'll choose the latter thank you very much
10-13-2019, 05:25 PM
#237
Gets Rolled on the Reg.
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 274
Originally Posted by CPPfacts
I agree with that. I’m trying to figure out why Skywest and RAH have a problem with that and why they have now kicked me off the jumpseat over it.
The whole FOM fear thing is probably fueling the misunderstanding.
Once again, the priority reciprocal agreement is missing in the FOM, not legality to carry a UAL pilot in the jumpseat.
10-13-2019, 06:11 PM
#238
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Guppy Gear Slinger
Posts: 1,852
Originally Posted by thaddiusMbuggs
Exactly this. We are just as shocked as anyone else this is SAPA's response and a great many of us don't agree with it and any guidance we are getting is minimal at best. I have never hidden the fact I am pro ALPA and also agree SAPA is in over their heads here.
It is extremely disheartening but I have already heard a couple of stories of UA guys who are literally going out of their way to find SKW guys at the airport and on the crew busses to tell them they either accept them on the jump and ignore SAPA or they will personally make it their business to derail future career prospects in response. Don't be that guy/gal. Leave it for behind the door with your FO or CP.
A majority of us truly don't like it anymore than you do.
And lastly just keep in mind that we are all going to have to play nice again when this is sorted out so can we all at least try to act professional?
It is extremely disheartening but I have already heard a couple of stories of UA guys who are literally going out of their way to find SKW guys at the airport and on the crew busses to tell them they either accept them on the jump and ignore SAPA or they will personally make it their business to derail future career prospects in response. Don't be that guy/gal. Leave it for behind the door with your FO or CP.
A majority of us truly don't like it anymore than you do.
And lastly just keep in mind that we are all going to have to play nice again when this is sorted out so can we all at least try to act professional?
10-13-2019, 06:15 PM
#239
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 30
Originally Posted by 1257
Honestly I believe most SkyWest/RAH pilots understand this is similar to Delta and is basically standardizing the exclusive/non-exclusive tables.
The whole FOM fear thing is probably fueling the misunderstanding.
Once again, the priority reciprocal agreement is missing in the FOM, not legality to carry a UAL pilot in the jumpseat.
The whole FOM fear thing is probably fueling the misunderstanding.
Once again, the priority reciprocal agreement is missing in the FOM, not legality to carry a UAL pilot in the jumpseat.
10-13-2019, 07:07 PM
#240
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 163
Originally Posted by Coot1980
Should we not fear the FOM?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
