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Originally Posted by Utah
(Post 3497459)
LOL. The joke went right over...
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Originally Posted by Str8 Cash Homie
(Post 3497329)
The only 0-4 year 401k that’s higher than 4% is Horizon Air. All the AA WO are 3.5% or less, Mesa 3%, Gojet 2%. Overall Horizon has the best 401k package followed by SkyWest.
These are the QOL gains - No stand-alone ready reserve - Guaranteed 12 days off per month - Same day straight swaps The financial gains have been posted. You can argue not enough gains in the contract, but “concessions” lol, stop trolling. No ready actually puts EVERYONE on duty on ready. It’s a gain for the company. |
Originally Posted by pangolin
(Post 3497498)
No stand alone ready is only a “gain” for reserves. (And the company). Not the majority of the pilot group. Eliminating ready is a concession for line holders. Why? Because with no ready reserves line holders will be reassigned so a short call can fill in for the line holder. Same day straight swaps - I like that. Gonna steal it.
No ready actually puts EVERYONE on duty on ready. It’s a gain for the company. Why is MESA still 11 days off for line holders? The answer is they’re at critical staffing levels and any give on time off takes 800 pilots and shrinks their availability more. Not a winning strategy and I don’t think any of the regionals will give out much quality of life gains. I think some of you guys are dreaming. Want more time at home? Apply to a Major. Also doesn’t MESA routinely Jr. man their pilots into off days? So I’d argue it’s not even guaranteed 11 off. Hey at least you get 60% for the deadhead pay back home. Then you can take industry low DH pay and apply it your industry low 401k 3% match for the first 1-9 years. |
Originally Posted by Pancakelandings
(Post 3497432)
I’m voting NO until the following are added to the TA:
-%20 direct contribution to I 401k day one -MINIMUM 18 days off per month -%150 pay per hour of work over 6 hours of duty -%150 pay per leg over 2! -Ability to trade or drop any trip any time I want -First class confirmed seats to commute to and from work Anyone not holding out for way more is an imbecile in this environment! |
Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
(Post 3497509)
News flash everyone at every airline who’s a line holder has turned into a ready reserve. When I worked at SkyWest I did not mind being reflowed in the middle of a trip because you always finished before your original scheduled trip. I HATED ready reserve. 8 hour sits at the airport is the same as a prison sentence because you’re the final option so you never get called. Just sit and stare at walls all day, just brutal.
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Originally Posted by Tippy
(Post 3497806)
I agree. I never really minded a reflow, It always worked in my favor either pay wise or finishing early or both.... I am at work to work was my attitude, even as a senior line holder I rarely cared.
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3497820)
You're not guaranteed to finish early on a reflow... wait until they start reflowing and extending you.
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Originally Posted by Skyhawk121
(Post 3497458)
How is that common sense? List the carriers that get all of these things.
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
(Post 3497509)
News flash everyone at every airline who’s a line holder has turned into a ready reserve. When I worked at SkyWest I did not mind being reflowed in the middle of a trip because you always finished before your original scheduled trip. I HATED ready reserve. 8 hour sits at the airport is the same as a prison sentence because you’re the final option so you never get called. Just sit and stare at walls all day, just brutal.
Why is MESA still 11 days off for line holders? The answer is they’re at critical staffing levels and any give on time off takes 800 pilots and shrinks their availability more. Not a winning strategy and I don’t think any of the regionals will give out much quality of life gains. I think some of you guys are dreaming. Want more time at home? Apply to a Major. Also doesn’t MESA routinely Jr. man their pilots into off days? So I’d argue it’s not even guaranteed 11 off. Hey at least you get 60% for the deadhead pay back home. Then you can take industry low DH pay and apply it your industry low 401k 3% match for the first 1-9 years. |
Originally Posted by Tippy
(Post 3497836)
Im aware of what can happen, Im only speaking from real personal experience. 6 years as a line holder only a two reflows and once request for "help" on the road and they all worked in my favor.
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