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Old 02-05-2015, 07:10 PM
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I had an offer from Skywest and PSA (as well as a few others that were lower on my list) but finally chose PSA. The deciding factor was the fact that I live a 2 hour drive out of base, which is a hell of a lot better than commuting.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:17 PM
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Go to PSA or sky west. Get a type. Quit then Apply to compass.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:24 PM
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I think its ok to leave if compass calls wherever you decide to go.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:25 PM
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Wait for compass. Or consider Mesa...you can get Phx right out of training, or within a month, good movement, steady growth, no 50 seaters (except one spare).. Way shorter time to get off reserve than skw, good training dept, and a good pilot group. I wouldn't touch an airline with a bunch of 50 seaters, a very senior and expensive pilot group already having staffing issues, and already extremely slow movement. Things can change overnight, but no thanks. Great contract though! And psa is great if you are on the east coast and if they can staff all their flying. I don't see everything going as smoothly as they think though...
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:32 PM
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Wait for compass. Or consider Mesa...you can get Phx right out of training, or within a month, good movement, steady growth, no 50 seaters (except one spare).. Way shorter time to get off reserve than skw, good training dept, and a good pilot group. I wouldn't touch an airline with a bunch of 50 seaters, a very senior and expensive pilot group already having staffing issues, and already extremely slow movement. Things can change overnight, but no thanks. Great contract though! And psa is great if you are on the east coast and if they can staff all their flying. I don't see everything going as smoothly as they think though...
You forgot to mention the great pay and contract. Oh wait.
I'm not sure where the long reserve rumors are coming from. I was holding a line on the west coast after a couple months. New hires can get lines in MSP/ORD almost immediately.
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:46 PM
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You forgot to mention the great pay and contract. Oh wait.
I'm not sure where the long reserve rumors are coming from. I was holding a line on the west coast after a couple months. New hires can get lines in MSP/ORD almost immediately.
Glad FO pay is high at skw with the upgrade time there.
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Glad FO pay is high at skw with the upgrade time there.
Should be dropping drastically, but that's not why I came here.
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You forgot to mention the great pay and contract. Oh wait.
I'm not sure where the long reserve rumors are coming from. I was holding a line on the west coast after a couple months. New hires can get lines in MSP/ORD almost immediately.
This is true. Buddy of mine who was in the late October '14 class is finishing up IOE and already has a line for March in MSP...
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:40 PM
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I'd try and get a Compass interview also if you want LAX. Skywest would have been a decent choice a few years ago, but they are starting to have serious issues. They just fired the money guy and in the last few months have ousted many of the top brass. A sure sign of trouble in paradise. Lack of new contracts, current contracts expiring this year and an inability to attract new talent to staff the present flying until they lose those contracts is making SkyWest a sketchy play in the next few years. And the EMB guys are going to be bumping into LAX and SFO until those bases shrink.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:42 PM
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IMHO your cons seem to far outweigh the pros for PSA.

If you want to stay west coast, SkyWest is a much better bet. PSA won't get you anywhere near the west coast for years to come.

Skywest's FO pay is better, and that's something you can count on if the music stops (not that it will anytime soon, BUT you never know...)

Upgrade time may be a a few years longer than PSA, but IMHO that con is not as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be. If you're not happy where you're working, then what's the point of the quick upgrade? I'd rather be happy where I work and have a longer upgrade than somewhere I didn't want to be for a short upgrade in hopes of getting on with a major. Something to the effect of, don't forget to enjoy the journey not just the destination.

As far as the SkyWest QOL issues, I'm not sure what to say here. I read all the negatives from people like CCB about SkyWest, but I have several friends over at SkyWest who just don't seem to be painting a picture about SkyWest even close to the picture that CCB paints of the scene at SkyWest. Every regional is going to have their issues.

In the end, you need to decide what is best for you.

Just don't get so wrapped up in the end game that you forget to enjoy the moments you have now. You'll never get them back once they're gone.
While CCB may be a little extreme in his observations, he is not too far off from the truth. I would recommend some place that has a contract where you are not making gentleman agreements and a "promise" to do what's right. Not that unions are the end all be all, but I would feel better having some legal backing moving into these uncertain times. The company just admitted that our student body can't represent our group with a 401k improvements. If that wasn't a huge red flag, then I am afraid our group has their head in the sand. I considered that a preview as to what they will be able to do when things get ugly (mergers or list integration) I'm sure we will be okay.
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