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Old 02-09-2015, 10:56 AM
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Fully depends on your end goal. You'll hear all sorts of pro's and con's on this site.. Figure out what's best for you, and go. Don't wait.

FWIW, one of the airlines has significantly more movement than the other and it just got even better today.
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Old 02-10-2015, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
With all fairness many of those old mainline guys are out of touch with hiring practices ect... They're relating from "their day"what it took. The recruitment bubble is much different now. Hence numerous FOs being hired with 0 TPIC
In all fairness.
1 I never said they were old
2 I am only talking big4, big brown, and FedEx
3 100 times the amount of guys with TPIC get hired than without
4 How much time did these FO's get hired with 6-7K jet?
5 A pilot hired with no TPIC and <5KTT is always holding another card of some sort
6 Every airline pays more to the pilot logging pic
7 The risk of missing a faster upgrade at PSA vs. SKW is a 1/10 the risk of getting hired with no TPIC
8 I've never heard you're statement come form anybody at a mainline just from guys who are at regional and still applying.

Like I said earlier, I made a decision from guys at mainline who are in the know. I may have f'd up, I may have jumped ahead there's no way to know.

In my opinion SKW was where to go a year and a half ago. Nothing was happening anywhere else and they were steady eddy. Today, Id look at Compass, PSA, TSA, Piedmont, maybe MESA maybe. Don't touch Go-jets or Republic with a pole. Try for Horizon if you want a career in their service area. As for the rest, it doesn't matter pick the one with the shortest commute to your house. Either way, don't short change TPIC.
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Newsflash,
Every regional out there sucks ball sweat. That being said, you need to stay uncomfortable and hungry, that will force you to chase the major's application process. Live in base, short commute= comfortable, and that is a problem, every day you spend at a regional will equal (hundreds of)thousands of dollars lost at the end of your career. Get on to a Hulas owned/operated job, become a expert on SOP, upgrade get a LCA letter, and carpet bomb the majors for a job. I see on a daily basis, F/Os who have a cute F/A girlfriend, live in base and haven't updated their logbook in a couple of years, while the guy who hates his company is motivated beyond belief to "Get the "F" out". Short term pain equals long term gain. While you lay in bed, in base, with that high school educated F/A, the TSA pilot squats in the bush(KSPI) eating cold fish heads and rice and getting harder and closer to the brass ring. And when you get to the majors, remember who sentenced you to that regional hell come contract time, FUPM.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:49 AM
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Comfortable.....many OO guys / gals are regretting becoming comfortable.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
Newsflash,
Every regional out there sucks ball sweat. That being said, you need to stay uncomfortable and hungry, that will force you to chase the major's application process. Live in base, short commute= comfortable, and that is a problem, every day you spend at a regional will equal (hundreds of)thousands of dollars lost at the end of your career. Get on to a Hulas owned/operated job, become a expert on SOP, upgrade get a LCA letter, and carpet bomb the majors for a job. I see on a daily basis, F/Os who have a cute F/A girlfriend, live in base and haven't updated their logbook in a couple of years, while the guy who hates his company is motivated beyond belief to "Get the "F" out". Short term pain equals long term gain. While you lay in bed, in base, with that high school educated F/A, the TSA pilot squats in the bush(KSPI) eating cold fish heads and rice and getting harder and closer to the brass ring. And when you get to the majors, remember who sentenced you to that regional hell come contract time, FUPM.
So, pray tell, why are you still at a regional?
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:44 AM
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So, pray tell, why are you still at a regional?
Tell me you aren't that stupid....oh, where did you leave from, to sit reserve in a hotel you paid for, again? Truth be told, 9/11 and if a major doesn't call soon, back to a more lucrative previous career. So yeah, I dislike this job from a senior captain's seat, enough to leave, because there isn't enough money in SGU to keep me. I like my life away from SKYW. Sucks to be you....chasing a dream, that's really just smoke and mirrors. I have had better and worse jobs than this one. I am old enough to know that trading days of my life for a few dollars is a bad exchange, so how's that reserve in a hotel treating you?

P.S. I was employed by SKYW when 16 days a month was fairly common, dropping trips was also possible and the company was on the up and coming track. Then they started hiring vacation/retirement pilots, who didn't need the income and the slide began, want to know what the problem is, look in the mirror.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
Tell me you aren't that stupid....oh, where did you leave from, to sit reserve in a hotel you paid for, again? Truth be told, 9/11 and if a major doesn't call soon, back to a more lucrative previous career. So yeah, I dislike this job from a senior captain's seat, enough to leave, because there isn't enough money in SGU to keep me. I like my life away from SKYW. Sucks to be you....chasing a dream, that's really just smoke and mirrors. I have had better and worse jobs than this one. I am old enough to know that trading days of my life for a few dollars is a bad exchange, so how's that reserve in a hotel treating you?
This is a serious question and I'm not being sarcastic:

Why are you not getting an interview?
Masters Degree. I would imagine you have more than 10,000 hours. You've done the interview prep. Why no interview? Curious.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom View Post
Tell me you aren't that stupid....oh, where did you leave from, to sit reserve in a hotel you paid for, again?
Who says I left anywhere to come to SKYW? A guy can hold more than 1 job at a time (and, let's face it, holding a second job is virtually a requirement to survive on FO pay).

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Truth be told, 9/11 and if a major doesn't call soon, back to a more lucrative previous career. So yeah, I dislike this job from a senior captain's seat, enough to leave, because there isn't enough money in SGU to keep me. I like my life away from SKYW.
Ah. Well, here's an idea. Instead of spending so much energy on your (admittedly entertaining) rants, think of how much more money you could be making if you channeled those energies into creating additional income streams for yourself.

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Sucks to be you....chasing a dream, that's really just smoke and mirrors.
You would be right if I was a bright-eyed 22-year old with dreams of widebody command at a major. I'm not. I'm 41, and I went into SKYW with full knowledge that, at the very best, I might spend a few years as a narrowbody CA at a major...maybe. Or I might well have to retire as an FO at a major. But the thing is, I went into this with eyes wide open. If I can't fly for Skywest (or other airline) and also keep up my second career at the same time (in order to actually pay my bills and fund my retirement) then I'll just have to return to my previous life. We'll see how it goes.

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I have had better and worse jobs than this one. I am old enough to know that trading days of my life for a few dollars is a bad exchange, so how's that reserve in a hotel treating you?
Reserve in a hotel is terrible, as you know. Fortunately I'll be home-based starting in 12 days.

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P.S. I was employed by SKYW when 16 days a month was fairly common, dropping trips was also possible and the company was on the up and coming track. Then they started hiring vacation/retirement pilots, who didn't need the income and the slide began, want to know what the problem is, look in the mirror.
I'm not quite sure I follow your logic. You're saying that the reason you're not at a major airline right now is because Skywest is hiring pilots who already have other income streams and have accumulated substantial savings for them to live on while enduring first-year pay?

I wish you the best of luck in moving to the majors, or switching back to your other career. Whatever makes you happy. Because it's clear that working at Skywest doesn't make you happy. And as Steve Jobs famously said, when you wake up in the morning and ask yourself if you're looking forward to going to work, if the answer is "No" too many mornings in a row, then it's time to change something.

Judging by your posts, that time has certainly come for you. I hope DAL/AA/UAL/SWA/etc. call soon, and that the job is what you'd hoped it would be. I'm not being sarcastic, either. And if we do wind up flying together, seeing as how I'm about to join your base...I wonder if I'll be able to tell that I'm flying with the legendary CCB. (I hope not.)
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If your captain has an epic story on day 2 of how he finger bombed the FA the night before, it might just be him.
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If your captain has an epic story on day 2 of how he finger bombed the FA the night before, it might just be him.
Finger bombed? Huh?
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