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Old 02-06-2015, 02:41 PM
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If you're for sure staying in California, I'd choose Compass or SkyWest. They will both give you a base today in Cali with an outlook to stay that way going forward. Career progression at both can be attained and both are good companies with a generally happy workgroup. PSA is too far away of a commute, and that Endeavor best case commute to MSP would be depressing long term.
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:52 AM
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Conpass is more junior on the west
Coast, although the 175 has gone junior in sfo that won't continue. Compass and skywesy are equally good companies but compass will have a quicker upgrade
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Saturn is right about using captain doh, but you do want to get to 50% on the seniority list as quickly as possible. I eyed Skywest for awhile, but every mainline guy I talked to said get TPIC. Do not pass go do not collect $200 dollars, put your tools down and go get in the left seat. As far as "good" company goes, that only matters if your #1 or 2 from the bottom or top, ranking anything in the middle is splitting hairs.

To me, the crowd that doesn't place priority on tpic is the 9/11-age 65 victims. If I were in their shoes i'd think just like them, but I am not, you're not. Its all in context.
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Originally Posted by Waitingformins View Post
Saturn is right about using captain doh, but you do want to get to 50% on the seniority list as quickly as possible. I eyed Skywest for awhile, but every mainline guy I talked to said get TPIC. Do not pass go do not collect $200 dollars, put your tools down and go get in the left seat. .
With all fairness many of those old mainline guys are out of touch with hiring practices ect... They're relating from "their day"what it took. The recruitment bubble is much different now. Hence numerous FOs being hired with 0 TPIC
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With all fairness many of those old mainline guys are out of touch with hiring practices ect... They're relating from "their day"what it took. The recruitment bubble is much different now. Hence numerous FOs being hired with 0 TPIC
Agree and disagree. Not many normal FOs even become a blip on the radar at the big 3 or FEDEX UPS. It takes extraordinary backgrounds and connections to get interviews. If your goal is Virgin or Frontier sure, no TPIC wouldn't be a show stopper. But for now and the next several years, banking on not needing TPIC and/or a 4 yr degree and going to a major is wishful thinking.
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Agree and disagree. Not many normal FOs even become a blip on the radar at the big 3 or FEDEX UPS. It takes extraordinary backgrounds and connections to get interviews. If your goal is Virgin or Frontier sure, no TPIC wouldn't be a show stopper. But for now and the next several years, banking on not needing TPIC and/or a 4 yr degree and going to a major is wishful thinking.
No, we've had 20+ FOs in our domicile alone leave for United/Delta/American. Some JetBlue and 1 to Alaska. All 0 TPIC, they had attended multiple job fairs.
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Didn't united just win a lawsuit regarding breech of contract with Mesa and their beloved 175s? not to mention they're canibbalizing 3 170s in IAH for parts....not very efficient operation
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Go to Mesa over SKW? I hope that quick upgrade pans out otherwise you'll be hating life... BTW, what's the scoop with Mesa's 175s? Lots of guys saying United is less than pleased, what gives?
SkyWest Propaganda. There is no problem with the 175s. I don't get all the Mesa hate. But prove me wrong and show me the filing of the lawsuit and I'll take that back.

As for the original post, if you want LA then SkyWest or Compass would be the best choices. Both seem like pretty good places to work but I would choose Compass because LA is pretty junior right now.
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After today's news I would choose PSA.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate View Post
With all fairness many of those old mainline guys are out of touch with hiring practices ect... They're relating from "their day"what it took. The recruitment bubble is much different now. Hence numerous FOs being hired with 0 TPIC
This is true. What was yesterday is not what is today. I'd go where I didn't have to commute, can make a livable wage, not work for a bottom feeder and better quality of life. Based on the two options presented...SKW. SEVERAL FOs are getting hired with Zero/zilch/nada TPIC.
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I'd think the big question is how happy you'd be living on the east coast versus near family and friends on the west?

I'd imagine that you'd probably make it out to the west coast once every 3-4 months and only for a few days at that. Sure you could do it a little more, but it won't be easy with the schedule you'll have.

It'll be a lot easier to make the birthdays. holidays, and special occasions based on the west coast. You'll have to decide what's most important to you.
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