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Chiefs 12-18-2016 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by coloradopilot (Post 2264609)
Can someone give me an idea of the total compensation you could make in the first year if you don't mind working a lot and including bonuses, etc?

Yes I've looked at APC and read the posts, I'm just looking for firsthand experience of the max you could bring home if you bust your butt.

Thanks in advance.

ill make
mid 40s my first year(including diem with 2 months of training)... depends on how long reserve

Surprise 12-18-2016 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2264590)
From what I think I remember, it was the US Airways system and after the merger, they voted it in. It sucks for the guys at the top of seniority, but it does force people to list pretty early (not like United where people list last second as the battle it out with their vacation passes). Also, it benefits those who are trying to non-rev on multiple legs since the time of checkin is allowed 24hrs prior to their first departure. So imagine someone leaving Europe and connecting in PHL and going to the west coast. They will be checked in for the PHL-west coast leg 10 hours before anyone who is just originating in PHL.

The old TravelUS system used seniority. The current NRTP is a legacy AA system, and it uses check in time. And I agree it's stupid.

And for your Europe-PHL example, not only will people with connections be checked in first, they'll also get "through" priority. So for the 2nd segment, they'll go from D3 to D3T, which is a higher priority, for example.

The silver lining is that in my experience, flights are either so full that no one gets on, or so empty that everyone gets on.

Moyo 12-18-2016 03:50 PM

So I start a course soon. The double occupancy hotels kind of took me by surprise before I applied. So, what if you're paired with someone who snores or gets up to pee 5 times a night? How have people managed?
Also, seems like there are some uniform choices, hat, leather jacket...not wanting to stand out, what's the norm?

Turbosina 12-18-2016 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Moyo (Post 2265315)
So I start a course soon. The double occupancy hotels kind of took me by surprise before I applied. So, what if you're paired with someone who snores or gets up to pee 5 times a night? How have people managed?
Also, seems like there are some uniform choices, hat, leather jacket...not wanting to stand out, what's the norm?

I paid for single-occupancy in training. It was $750 for indoc and systems (3.5 weeks.) Not sure what it is now...

As for uniform, a few words of wisdom:

1) Please do not wear the hat. Especially, God forbid, as an FO. At SKW it pretty much marks you as an instant tool.

2) Leather jacket is pricey but absolutely worth it for winter flying. The uniform blazer is fine for spring/fall months but absolutely inadequate for, say, ORD in wintertime. There's supposedly a long trenchcoat available but I have never seen a single pilot wearing it.

There's really not a lot of uniform 'choices' per se...

WesternSkies 12-18-2016 04:19 PM

Do what ever style you personally like but when they ask pleats, answer yes with confidence!
Extra pleats please.

Also, assert your dominance early or you'll be the small spoon.

Moyo 12-18-2016 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2265326)
I paid for single-occupancy in training. It was $750 for indoc and systems (3.5 weeks.) Not sure what it is now...

As for uniform, a few words of wisdom:

1) Please do not wear the hat. Especially, God forbid, as an FO. At SKW it pretty much marks you as an instant tool.

2) Leather jacket is pricey but absolutely worth it for winter flying. The uniform blazer is fine for spring/fall months but absolutely inadequate for, say, ORD in wintertime. There's supposedly a long trenchcoat available but I have never seen a single pilot wearing it.

There's really not a lot of uniform 'choices' per se...

As for the jacket I should be based in the southwest but we'll see. No hat...gotcha. As for rooms now it's significantly higher than that now for ground and sim room bookings. Tough call.

Jvw700 12-18-2016 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Moyo (Post 2265340)
As for the jacket I should be based in the southwest but we'll see. No hat...gotcha. As for rooms now it's significantly higher than that now for ground and sim room bookings. Tough call.

I think they move you to single occcupancy after ground for sims. What do you mean you should be based in the southwest?

Moyo 12-18-2016 05:05 PM

They quoted for ground and sim hotel pricing if you wanted your own room and I meant LA or SFO.

JLAMS16 12-18-2016 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2265326)
I paid for single-occupancy in training. It was $750 for indoc and systems (3.5 weeks.) Not sure what it is now...

As for uniform, a few words of wisdom:

1) Please do not wear the hat. Especially, God forbid, as an FO. At SKW it pretty much marks you as an instant tool.

2) Leather jacket is pricey but absolutely worth it for winter flying. The uniform blazer is fine for spring/fall months but absolutely inadequate for, say, ORD in wintertime. There's supposedly a long trenchcoat available but I have never seen a single pilot wearing it.

There's really not a lot of uniform 'choices' per se...

Not full of yourself.....are you?
This comment marks you as "quoted"
Don't know you, probably I would prefer not to.
Look for me..... the FO with the hat, required at my next gig.

Jvw700 12-18-2016 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Moyo (Post 2265357)
They quoted for ground and sim hotel pricing if you wanted your own room and I meant LA or SFO.

Again, I'm pretty sure they move you to single occupancy that way when you get the 4 am sim you're not waking your room mate. Don't get your hopes too high yet. You may have to spend some time in ORD...


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