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VHDSJ 10-14-2016 07:54 PM

Yes, the leather jacket looks great Pro Aviator ? Perrone Apparel

So I guess we don't need the hat if we wear the epaulets on the leather jackets?

elmetal 10-14-2016 08:08 PM

That is correct

VHDSJ 10-14-2016 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2223974)
That is correct

Ok thanks for that. Do people usually wear the hat? It was never popular at my previous airline.

elmetal 10-14-2016 08:14 PM

Some do. Most don't.

skypine27 10-14-2016 08:45 PM

Just heard a rumor that a new "quit and come back with some pay bennies" policy was just signed. What's the deal with this? Do they think anyone will come back??

WesternSkies 10-14-2016 08:56 PM

I couldn't imagine wearing the sweater with how poorly some run the ECS.

WesternSkies 10-14-2016 09:25 PM

This new rehire policy is an amazing thing for this pilot group.
Those rehired retain prior longevity pay, but start over at the bottom of the seniority list.

Unfortunately this communication seemed to incorrectly use the word seniority for longevity. I'm sure a few pitch forks will be grab and small rabbles formed until it's cleared up.

Though everything is 🌹, my suspicions of this opening a distant and remote door for part 91 flying down the road has my attention. Something to guard.

The loss of medical insurance is a big bright spot coming down the pike for this pilot group too.

disillusioned 10-14-2016 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2223243)
All depends on base, seat, equipment, and month. Not many folks can do it.

I remember when the company proposed the ability to "waive minimum credit" Everyone was all excited about the prospect, but TC was very vocal about if the top of the list got less hours, that meant the rest of the pilot group would need to pick up those hours. After years of being in the top 20-40% and getting awarded 90+ hour lines with a minimum line value of 88 hours, it seems TC was absolutely correct in his assessment.

History has shown that SW likes to run lean. I thought the proposal was okay, but would've been a no for me just because I saw enough proposals that were supposed to be a win for the pilot group, but the company interpretation and implementation was 180 degree turn from what the pilot group thought they were getting (long call as an example)

Of course, this was back in the day when the company didn't try to get out of displacement pay when closing bases. With SGU driving a Mack truck through the PPM on a regular basis, it would be wise to not provide a fuel station for that truck.

Oma4545 10-15-2016 08:07 PM

Hey all,
I started here in late April and this is my first go at the airline gig. I live in Denver and am based on the CRJ. When I started, Denver was easily attainable shortly after training. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. The November bid has me dropping even further in reserve in Minneapolis. I've watched it go down in base over the past few months. Looking at Detroit, I could hold a line. And perhaps in Chicago too. DEN to ORD is a nightmare I've heard. My issue is whether or not I stick it out in MSP until somehow I can sit reserve in Denver or commute two time zones to a line in Detroit. I appreciate the insight

rcfd13 10-15-2016 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Oma4545 (Post 2224548)
Hey all,
I started here in late April and this is my first go at the airline gig. I live in Denver and am based on the CRJ. When I started, Denver was easily attainable shortly after training. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore. The November bid has me dropping even further in reserve in Minneapolis. I've watched it go down in base over the past few months. Looking at Detroit, I could hold a line. And perhaps in Chicago too. DEN to ORD is a nightmare I've heard. My issue is whether or not I stick it out in MSP until somehow I can sit reserve in Denver or commute two time zones to a line in Detroit. I appreciate the insight

Commuting to a line is a lot better than commuting to reserve. You'll at least have a plan for each week and you'll never have to just commute out there and sit around for no reason. MSP is slightly shrinking while DTW is growing so you may do better in DTW.

Things are moving. I can't see it taking that long to get DEN with all of the movement. Trips in ORD are significantly better than trips in DTW and MSP but you're right about ORD-DEN commuting being a nightmare. I've seen 120 on standby for an Airbus with 5 jumpseaters listed once.


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