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Companies that are offering sign on and retention bonuses are doing so because they can't attract pilots in any other way, usually long upgrades and or crappy old planes. Endeavors bonus program ends soon. Ask yourself would any airline just give out 20k to each pilot if it was the place to work and could attract people....if yes that's some seriously generous management and they moist
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Squallrider

10-19-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2227160)

If they wait that long it will be to late. They are already struggling to fill classes and keep up with attrition. United has not really been hiring for the last 5 months and now they are ramping back up so you can expect twice as many pilots leaving per month next year.

80-100 new hires a month is struggling? Yea ok you should research class sizes anywhere else

Squallrider

10-19-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rmcbear08 (Post 2227192)

This.

United slowed down due to the relocation of all their training operations to DEN, as well as an expansion of the current facility. By this time next year it will all be up and running. A buddy of mine there says that 700 new pilots isn't an unreasonable number for 2017.

United said 1200 minimum next year recently

N1234

10-19-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2227201)

80-100 new hires a month is struggling? Yea ok you should research class sizes anywhere else

80-100 is not accurate. The longer term average (people who are left at the end of IOE) runs more like 60 per month.

N1234

10-19-2016 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2227205)

United said 1200 minimum next year recently

They did. Time will tell whether they will disappoint once again. UA has failed to deliver on their internal growth targets for the last three years!!!

Majerus

10-19-2016 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2227209)

80-100 is not accurate. The longer term average (people who are left at the end of IOE) runs more like 60 per month.

The current washout rate is 6% not 20%

Squallrider

10-19-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2227209)

80-100 is not accurate. The longer term average (people who are left at the end of IOE) runs more like 60 per month.

That's more than quite a few regionals combined. Those ppl leaving are usually military. Regardless we aren't struggling to find people. We have 50 plus recruiters working on this and most candidates are at least good in quality

RemoveB4Flight

10-19-2016 11:03 AM

Skywest is not yet "struggling to find people". Could it happen this next year? Sure it could and I hope it does. Best that we could ask for is Skywest beginning to have trouble hiring right before contract negotiations.

rmcbear08

10-19-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Squallrider (Post 2227205)

United said 1200 minimum next year recently

Even better!

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RemoveB4Flight

10-19-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by soakingpilot (Post 2227149)

Never said it was better at AA if you could find that for me and requote me please. I have only been pointing out what these new policies at skw really are. You have an issue with that ? Ok, but I'm looking for us all at skw to get compensated correctly and not get their streams crossed with these "amazing" benefits for the skw pilot group which is what I was responding too.
But thanks.

In your comparisons it was obvious that you were implying that you want Skywest to have things that other places have while knocking the new improvements as not good enough. I deduced that you wanted those things because you believe they are better than what you have now (because why would you want something that's not better? Right?)

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