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Duesenflieger 10-06-2017 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by ImPilot I Fly (Post 2442657)
I'm certainly not thinking that. I hope this is sarcasm. If not please allow me to apologize on his behalf to all the XJet guys that are going through a really hard time right now.

It's rough. I'm just a pilot. I could never be in upper management and make the decisions that affect so many lives and say "it's just business". I'm upgrading soon. You will always be allowed in my jumpseat. I hope all of you land on your feet.

I can't speak for all of my colleagues. But the majority of them I've discussed the topic with share the same sentiment. Except mowgli65.


My friend was recently denied the jumpseat on a flight with little to no passengers by a XJT captain for no logical reason besides that he is a SKYW pilot. Enough is enough. Stop blaming our pilot group for ruining your lives! We are not responsible for what is happening to you.


As for mercyful troll, why the heck is this wretch even on our thread when he isn't even one of us. Get lost, fool.

msprj2 10-06-2017 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2442678)
Because without people like me, you wouldn't have a job.

Oh, ok Orville

LAX2MSP 10-07-2017 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2442829)
Yea, ok. Without investors and people paying to use your services, (like myself), you are worthless. Don't forget that.

You need to take a step back and relax.. Just cause I’ve taken my kids to Disneyland and have Disney in my portfolio doesn’t mean I have the right to tell the employees of the park how to feel and act. Coming on here and telling us we are worthless is nothing short of pathetic.

Yes we appreciate your business and investment, we won’t forget that, and you are correct that without people like you, this company wouldn’t exist, but 99.9% of our passengers / investors aren’t making “know it all” remarks to us in an anonymous forum.

Mooneycfi 10-07-2017 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2442678)
Because without people like me, you wouldn't have a job.

How is this troll not banned?

BrewCity 10-07-2017 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate (Post 2442829)
Yea, ok. Without investors and people paying to use your services, (like myself), you are worthless. Don't forget that.

How many shares of SKYW do you own?

hawk21 10-07-2017 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by BrewCity (Post 2442909)
How many shares of SKYW do you own?

Probably has 3 shares of SKYW on Robinhood and thinks he's a hot shot on Wall Street.

trip 10-07-2017 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mooneycfi (Post 2442907)
How is this troll not banned?

Because it's in the regional forum. I got banned for calling out a wrench (whom was clearly a big one) but my mistake was being in the big boy playpen.
Carry-on.

gojo 10-07-2017 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Nevjets (Post 2442397)
I don't think I'm making myself clear. Let me try again. Yes, management setup regionals to whipsaw their labor. But labor is not against each other because of it. Regional MEC's decide on their own (for better or worse) what is best for their pilot group. No one, and I mean NOBODY can compel ANY mec what to do or not do. Regional and major MEC's do the exact same thing. The difference being (in negotiations) is that major mec negotiate with management of their airline which sell their own tickets. This is the only reason why their is such a great disparity between regional and major compensation. But both MEC's receive advice from the same professional staff of attorneys and subject matter experts. It's up to each mec to do what they can considering the economics of their specific situation. There is ABSOLUTELY no conflict of interest. If there was, why were pilots from Alaska, Fedex, delta, and united helping out during the last ALPa organizing drive? Why would they want more regional pilots in conflict against their interests? Why would they want another regional to have to subsidize with their dues?

Look, I've been non-union and union. I've been on the mec and just a line pilot. I had a lot of misconceptions also, especially on unions in general. I'm telling you, it's not what you think. Even ALPA, with all its warts, is better than no union.

By the way, if you don't like ALPA, that's fine, and you don't think you can go independent (still better than nothing and gets rid of the true conflict of interest), then there is also the IBT. There are no excuses at this point.

One last thing, don't ignore the major part of what ALPA does. It's not negotiating contracts! It's the safety and security advocacy and the pilot representation aspect from dealing with management, government agencies, medical, and professional in all aspects of a pilots life.




Ok, go ahead and make personal attacks on me if that's all you have. I'm being served ok, by the way, nothing to get over. But the reason why this place is shrinking is because of the ineptitude of the CPAs negotiated by inc.




Expressjet was not going anywhere. At the time, xjt flew 244 aircraft for continental and there was no way that was going to go away. Just as delta didn't let republic nor pinnacle go away. And they had a lot less aircraft, collectively, flying for them. If it wasn't Skywest, it would've been someone else, probably, continental. This Skywest buyout had nothing to do with any union. If Skywest cared about their own employees, maybe things would be different. But they are fiduciary bound to their shareholders first. Something that a union provides their members.

I hear what you're saying, and for the most part I agree with you. But man, it's like, to use the expression, beating your head against the same wall. I do admire your persistence though. It's just that most Skywest people aren't interested. Inc says We must do something about ExpressJet. They're losing money. Must be the union screwing it up. And many buy into it hook line and sinker like they can't think for themselves. I mean it's not like ExpressJet is run completely autonomously from Skywest?


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