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Old 03-30-2016 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Karloffstall
Just heard about Delta buying Skywest and sending the 717s for SW to fly, couldn't be more excited to head off for my class date!

My questions to those who could offer advice..

1. How would I go about switching my class from the CRJ to the 717, or will they do it automatically?

2. If in a couple years would it be possible to switch to something larger or is it based on the integrated seniority.

3. Is the purchase to mean that Skywest will remain a regional but wholly owned like Envoy or are we Just part of Delta now?

4. Can I anticipate being paid on the current Skywest pay scale of will I be paid on the delta scale, when will that become effective?

Thanks for the questions!
If you are already on property, you just have to put in a standing bid. As long as there is not company need to keep you in the CRJ, you will get it when your seniority can hold it. However, if it will reduce training events, then it will just go to new hires.

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Old 03-30-2016 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
If you are already on property, you just have to put in a standing bid. As long as there is not company need to keep you in the CRJ, you will get it when your seniority can hold it. However, if it will reduce training events, then it will just go to new hires.

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case in point, VD just told me in a personal message that every single CRJ FO trying to transition in this upcoming bid WILL be bypassed. PERIOD.
Old 03-30-2016 | 06:00 PM
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case in point, VD just told me in a personal message that every single CRJ FO trying to transition in this upcoming bid WILL be bypassed. PERIOD.
That's actually good for me as it keeps senior people from coming in ahead of me. Bad for seniority though. But I will take it.
Old 03-30-2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
case in point, VD just told me in a personal message that every single CRJ FO trying to transition in this upcoming bid WILL be bypassed. PERIOD.
As much as I would love to make a comment about how at least our President is more concerned with getting a discount on the Surface when we leave, this issue and all others rests directly on our shoulders. We have voted time and time again that we don't need legal representation and that the company will do what's right without it.

They continually pit the pilot groups against each other and have us fighting each other vs finding unity. They are very good at it and we even have pilots that want to argue about how it's perfectly acceptable for us to get paid 2% less than what every other airlines gets for flying the same routes. Open time in my base looks like the elevator scene from The Shining, but management knows some will pick it up for 15% extra or they will just have a check airman fly it as an FO. The company is very clear with us that they will determine our worth and take what's left over to put gas in the houseboat and pay management bonuses.

Sorry to all those that will be bypassed again this month.
Old 03-30-2016 | 07:26 PM
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Y'all got hot karl'd!! We're not getting 717's, probably will fly all of the United 737s though as jb mentioned.

In all seriousness, are we still able to fill classes? I read that many places are not, including a younger friend of mine who indicated he was one of a class of 4 for another airline
Old 03-30-2016 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Karloffstall
Y'all got hot karl'd!! We're not getting 717's, probably will fly all of the United 737s though as jb mentioned.

In all seriousness, are we still able to fill classes? I read that many places are not, including a younger friend of mine who indicated he was one of a class of 4 for another airline
I believe there are over 60 in the most recent CRJ class that started this past Monday.
If this number starts to thin however, it'll definitely get interesting since it seems recruiting is just barely keeping up with attrition with the pilots that are making it to the line.
Old 03-30-2016 | 09:18 PM
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Gotcha,it's going to be an interesting year for sure. Hurray continued "insufficient staffing, net reserve -20"
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I believe there are over 60 in the most recent CRJ class that started this past Monday.
If this number starts to thin however, it'll definitely get interesting since it seems recruiting is just barely keeping up with attrition with the pilots that are making it to the line.
Old 03-30-2016 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
case in point, VD just told me in a personal message that every single CRJ FO trying to transition in this upcoming bid WILL be bypassed. PERIOD.
And the reasoning is...?

I'm guessing it's because we don't have enough CRJ FOs, but when have we ever had enough CRJ FOs?
Old 03-30-2016 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
case in point, VD just told me in a personal message that every single CRJ FO trying to transition in this upcoming bid WILL be bypassed. PERIOD.
Meanwhile, as more -700s come offline for UA, and more and more of the good flying gets shifted to the 175. The CRJ pilots waiting to transition get shafted. More crap, low credit, 12 hour duty-days on the -200. and SAPA remains mute on the issue. TFAYD!!!

Serious question to this pilot group, when is enough enough? I'm not exactly sure what I mean by that, but more of a rhetorical question. Does anybody see a tipping point in the near future as to when people get ****ed off enough with this crap? (Specifically the blatant seniority violations, PBS "globalization", bare minimum staffing, and forced lines of 90+ hours every month)
Old 03-30-2016 | 11:06 PM
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Here's the thing about being bypassed: VD actually has to say you're "bypassed" for any of that language to mean anything. No openings in the 175 for current pilots = not officially bypassed.
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