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elmetal 04-05-2017 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2336854)
Serious question here...why is it a big deal to upgrade? It seems like FOs are being hired that go out of their way to volunteer with WAI, OBAP, ALPA etc and those who expand their horizons by doing sim instruction and safety department work. If upgrading and TPIC were the magic keycards so sought after than every captain would be picked up, especially the seasoned regional CAs. Not saying that upgrading is not important, but it's only a piece of a gigantic puzzle that makes one competitive for a legacy and once all an applicant's cards align, upgrading might score enough points on one's application to warrant an interview. People are chasing the upgrade and still not getting an interview. Best just to have a mindset of signing up to fly, and if one makes it to a legacy one day, good for them.... It won't happen for everyone, and so don't expect too much is the best strategy for career happiness....

This is more senior fos perpetuating this idea. Is it required? Of course not. But ask anybody at delta or ua how many in their new hire have no tpic. It's still incredibly difficult to get hired without tpic.

Just because your heard of Joe Bob getting hired without it doesn't mean it's the norm.

rnfnr 04-05-2017 05:33 PM

Does insurance kick in for a new-hire right from the get go when they begin class?

zondaracer 04-05-2017 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by rnfnr (Post 2337113)
Does insurance kick in for a new-hire right from the get go when they begin class?

Health insurance kicks in after three months.

CloudShredder 04-05-2017 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2336854)
Serious question here...why is it a big deal to upgrade? It seems like FOs are being hired that go out of their way to volunteer with WAI, OBAP, ALPA etc and those who expand their horizons by doing sim instruction and safety department work. If upgrading and TPIC were the magic keycards so sought after than every captain would be picked up, especially the seasoned regional CAs. Not saying that upgrading is not important, but it's only a piece of a gigantic puzzle that makes one competitive for a legacy and once all an applicant's cards align, upgrading might score enough points on one's application to warrant an interview. People are chasing the upgrade and still not getting an interview. Best just to have a mindset of signing up to fly, and if one makes it to a legacy one day, good for them.... It won't happen for everyone, and so don't expect too much is the best strategy for career happiness....

That's great and all, but you can do all that volunteer and instructor stuff (mostly) regardless of seat position. The Captain pay checks are larger as well, and the experience IMO is worth it.

Cruz5350 04-05-2017 07:46 PM

I thought I was a pretty decent pilot until I upgraded.... the amount I've learned about the job and myself in the last month has easily surpassed the last few years of right seat flying and I've always gone out of my way to learn regardless of being an FO.

Turbosina 04-05-2017 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Flip69 (Post 2336772)
Its sad to see that Skywest pilots have become just another bunch of self entitled keyboard tough guys like the rest. They used to have class. Now all I see out on line and on the web are "I'm too cool for this" while they think they will be at a major in 5 years. Far from it. It's still a regional. A commuter. Nothing to brag about.

You kids get off my lawn!

elmetal 04-05-2017 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 2337189)
I thought I was a pretty decent pilot until I upgraded.... the amount I've learned about the job and myself in the last month has easily surpassed the last few years of right seat flying and I've always gone out of my way to learn regardless of being an FO.

Couldn't agree more

zondaracer 04-06-2017 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by rnfnr (Post 2337113)
Does insurance kick in for a new-hire right from the get go when they begin class?


I was wrong. I double checked. Health insurance kicks in after 60 days.

CaptYoda 04-06-2017 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2337897)
I was wrong. I double checked. Health insurance kicks in after 60 days.


Are all regionals about the same with regard to when health insurance kicks in? If I recall in the past it was pretty much right away.

Crdrvr1 04-07-2017 01:08 PM

17 year ASA guy here..it is deplorable what Skywest Inc. is doing to the legacy ASA group. We did nothing to deserve this. They are destroying lives for the all mighty dollar. Thanks.


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