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saxman66 04-12-2017 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by nopantsILS (Post 2341125)
Anyone check out the new AA ORD lounge? The place is pretty large.....

With no bathroom, and a quiet room thats not quiet...

elmetal 04-12-2017 08:45 AM

Or dark

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WesternSkies 04-12-2017 09:29 AM

I believe that the last Alaska 175 was delivered recently. With out any announcement of exercising options for this increase in destinations either we will be losing lines out on the coast as Horizon builds their 175 fleet or this odd behavior from Alaska toward Horizon now has an evident purpose.

Alaska 175s on the East coast will be interesting.

As far as the sleep room goes, there is still a great sleep room on the United side of ORD. The walk is probably good for us anyway.

rickair7777 04-12-2017 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by AboveMins (Post 2341572)
You may want to consider asking the mods to password protect this thread, and restrict it to the SKW crowd only then... :rolleyes:

They can come over here and whine if they want to, but they shouldn't be all butt hurt if they get called out. :rolleyes:

amcnd 04-12-2017 09:45 AM

Think there are still 2 aircraft to be dilevered..I would say .. No.. SkyWest is not getting QX 175's as of now... more route shifts as QX uses our routes to start there operation.. But i do think its position as QX is running into problems.. sim not ready, pilot contract problem ect...

450knotOffice 04-12-2017 09:55 AM

That guy made it very clear in his subsequent post that he wasn't complaining about Skywest pilots. He was complaining about Skywest, Inc.'s senior level management team. So many of you are just so quick to defend or dismiss anything and everything your management team does.

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by LAX2MSP (Post 2341487)
Does anyone know if AAG moved QX 175 orders to us? We just got the memo talking about new flying from Dallas Love to SAN, SEA, SJC and PDX.

Alaska Airlines and Virgin America are growing their footprint in the Lone Star State, expanding service to Dallas Love Field from four West Coast airports. With new routes between Love Field and Seattle; San Diego; Portland, Oregon; and San Jose, California, the combined airline will serve eight destinations from Love Field with 18 daily peak season departures, up 40 percent.
“These new routes offer Dallas business flyers complete West Coast utility from one of the fastest growing corporate centers in the country, one that is home to 54 Fortune 500 companies,” said John Kirby, Alaska Airlines’ vice president of capacity planning. “Guests flying between the West Coast and both of North Texas’s major airports will enjoy Alaska and Virgin America’s award winning service and convenient schedules.”

Just four months into its merger with Virgin America, Alaska Airlines has announced unprecedented growth from the West Coast, adding a record 37 new markets to date. The new Love Field expansion builds on Alaska’s successful service to Texas, which began 12 years ago. After today’s announcement, Alaska Airlines and Virgin America will offer guests 59 peak season flights a day to/from five Texas airports, including Austin, Dallas Fort Worth, Dallas Love Field, Houston and San Antonio.

The four new routes will be flown using three-class jets. The Embraer 175 jet, operated by SkyWest Airlines, will fly daily to Portland, San Diego, San Jose and Seattle. One of the two daily flights to Seattle will be operated by Virgin America using an A320 family aircraft. All guests flying the new routes will enjoy Free Chat, free movies, premium food and beverages, Wi-Fi and advance seat selection.

Starting this summer, Virgin America jets will be replaced with a 76-seat E175 jet in two Love Field markets – New York’s LaGuardia Airport and Washington, D.C.’s Reagan National Airport. On Aug. 27, three-times daily service to New York’s LaGuardia Airport will operate using an E175 and increase to four daily flights on Oct. 28. Starting Feb. 18, twice-daily service to Reagan National Airport will also be replaced with an E175. The third daily Love Field-Washington Reagan National daily trip will continue to be operated by Virgin America until March 11, when SkyWest will take over the evening flight. As part of these schedule changes, Virgin America will permanently exit Love Field-Las Vegas on Aug. 26.

“Optimizing the fleet and matching the right plane to the right market to is one of the key benefits of our merger with Virgin America,” said Kirby. ““Prior to merger, Virgin America lacked a regional aircraft to take advantage of mid-sized routes. The fuel-efficient E175 jet has the same amenities and features of a mainline jet and is perfectly suited for Love Field.”

Dallas does not allow the same 121 airline operate out of both DFW and DAL. For Delta, they needed to have one of their regional partners fly into DAL (and stop flying into DFW) while the mainline and the rest of the regionals flew into DFW.

Since Virgin operates out of DAL and Alaska out of DFW, there will need to be adjustments if and when they merge into a single 121 certificate.

amcnd 04-12-2017 10:06 AM

OO flys PDX-DFW...

uvuflier 04-12-2017 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2341671)
Dallas does not allow the same 121 airline operate out of both DFW and DAL. For Delta, they needed to have one of their regional partners fly into DAL (and stop flying into DFW) while the mainline and the rest of the regionals flew into DFW.

Since Virgin operates out of DAL and Alaska out of DFW, there will need to be adjustments if and when they merge into a single 121 certificate.

We used to fly IAH-DFW and IAH-DAL up until a few years ago.

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by uvuflier (Post 2341676)
We used to fly IAH-DFW and IAH-DAL up until a few years ago.

Under the old legislation, DAL was limited to Texas, its adjacent states, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi. Anything outside those states could be flown in an airplane with 50 seats or less. Delta started service to ATL with the CRJ200 under that legislation and continued flights on that route now.

Under the new legislation, it is limited by 121 certificate. Virgin has a contract for 2 gates at DAL and makes less than ideal use of them. DAL is also gate limited by the legislation and no gates can be physically added. SWA has the rest of the gates and shares one gate with Delta.

My suspicion is, given the legislation, that this has not been thought out. I can guarantee that SWA will legally challenge OO flying into both. (We do have more than one 121 certificates, so maybe that is how we plan to do it).


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