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hotbreeze 04-12-2017 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2341673)
OO flys PDX-DFW...

OO flies DFW-PDX, DFW-SFO, DFW-LAX, and DFW-ORD with E175s. OO also flies DFW-ASE and DFW-DEN with the CRJ seasonally.

uvuflier 04-12-2017 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2341711)
Under the old legislation, DAL was limited to Texas, its adjacent states, Missouri, Kansas, Mississippi. Anything outside those states could be flown in an airplane with 50 seats or less. Delta started service to ATL with the CRJ200 under that legislation and continued flights on that route now.

Under the new legislation, it is limited by 121 certificate. Virgin has a contract for 2 gates at DAL and makes less than ideal use of them. DAL is also gate limited by the legislation and no gates can be physically added. SWA has the rest of the gates and shares one gate with Delta.

My suspicion is, given the legislation, that this has not been thought out. I can guarantee all the airlines at DFW (or at least SWA) will legally challenge OO flying into both.

Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?

amcnd 04-12-2017 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2341715)
OO flies DFW-PDX, DFW-SFO, DFW-LAX, and DFW-ORD with E175s. OO also flies DFW-ASE and DFW-DEN with the CRJ seasonally.

Was talking about for Alaska airlines

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by uvuflier (Post 2341730)
Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?

I am still looking for the direct legislation. Here is a link that outlined the agreement that was sent to Congress by the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth. This agreement was passed by Congress.

Who Won In The Wright Amendment Compromise? | Aero-News Network

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by uvuflier (Post 2341730)
Interesting. Can you direct me to the legislation?

https://www.congress.gov/congression...use-report/600

uvuflier 04-12-2017 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2341762)

Thanks! I'll take a look at it.

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by uvuflier (Post 2341793)
Thanks! I'll take a look at it.

I was looking this over. This legislation simply amends the 1979 Wright Amendment, which restricts an air carrier to DFW or DAL. Based on air carrier's actions, they have all either given up their operations to be at DAL or vice versa.

It will be interesting how both SWA and AA react to this since it opens up more competition from DAL.

KSCessnaDriver 04-12-2017 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by hotbreeze (Post 2341797)
I was looking this over. This legislation simply amends the 1979 Wright Amendment, which restricts an air carrier to DFW or DAL. Based on air carrier's actions, they have all either given up their operations to be at DAL or vice versa.

It will be interesting how both SWA and AA react to this since it opens up more competition from DAL.

Only if you can get a gate at DAL. The amended WA still limits the total number of gates at DAL.

WesternSkies 04-12-2017 02:36 PM

It couldn't be the Wright Amendments doing, as it was repealed. Maybe something else?
United flew into both as of a couple of years ago when SWA made them an offer they couldn't refuse...$$$. United still has the DAL gates but leases them to SWA.
American had gates at DAL and during the Wright Amendment but was forced to turn them over as a condition of the USair merger, which is where VA and Alaska got the gate space.
Delta has gate space at both too.

hotbreeze 04-12-2017 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 2341902)
It couldn't be the Wright Amendments doing, as it was repealed. Maybe something else?
United flew into both as of a couple of years ago when SWA made them an offer they couldn't refuse...$$$. United still has the DAL gates but leases them to SWA.
American had gates at DAL and during the Wright Amendment but was forced to turn them over as a condition of the USair merger, which is where VA and Alaska got the gate space.
Delta has gate space at both too.

WA was never repealed, only amended. I posted the legislation and it only amends the prior legislation, never repeals it. People called it repealed because SWA started fly coast to coast out of Love. But, when VA came to DAL, they had to leave DFW. Now, that could be due to the agreement between DFW and DAL as to who gets to lease what gates.

American Eagle had gates at DAL and left because they could never make the routes profitable. Delta Connection shares gates at DAL with SWA.

Of the gates at Dallas Love: 2 are leased to United and subleased to SWA. 2 are leased to VA. 16 are leased to SWA.


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