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tcco94 09-02-2017 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2423776)
What QOL?

The good reputation is only gonna last so long. This place has changed tremendously and soon they will all know.

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I haven't been here long enough to comment on that....but....based on the conversations I have with Captains, I know what you mean. It's still not as bad as some regionals, but I don't know how much it will affect our hiring in the future. Has yet to be seen.

tcco94 09-02-2017 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2423843)
Compass just got 17,500$ bonus and 41$ to start. And Commute Air 22,100$ bonus paid before training starts.

Another forum said they had 1 person in their last systems class....

Not sure if that's true or not

Duesenflieger 09-02-2017 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2423843)
Compass just got 17,500$ bonus and 41$ to start. And Commute Air 22,100$ bonus paid before training starts.

And retention bonuses in the works at CZ.... But we're at the best regional, we should be glad that we're being paid at all to work here, right?

Paid2fly 09-02-2017 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cazadores (Post 2420727)
1985.


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How so???:confused:

mdcny 09-03-2017 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 2423070)
This is a joke right? Nobody seriously believes this will be adopted industry wide (outside of the regionals) do they?

I'll eat my words once this is common practice at the majors. But until then this is just a scheme for regionals to poach from other regionals. Nothing more than another giveaway of leverage that only benefits new hires, and a small sub-group of pilots already on property.

Where is the reward for the pilots who were smart and did their research and came to SkyWest FIRST?!?! as opposed to rewarding the regional hoppers who got burned chasing the quick upgrade.

Why would you care if another pilot makes his pay in experience? You don't know what other people's situations were at the time. As long you get paid what you should be, I wouldn't worry about other pilots' paychecks. If someone goes from Kmart to Target but gets paid for their experience, what's the difference? Exactly what pilots got burned? Everyone else is still chugging along fine. If a fellow pilot needs to come over and make pay for his years of experience which would help support his family, then fine. We're all in this together.

rickair7777 09-03-2017 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by mdcny (Post 2424271)
Why would you care if another pilot makes his pay in experience? You don't know what other people's situations were at the time. As long you get paid what you should be, I wouldn't worry about other pilots' paychecks. If someone goes from Kmart to Target but gets paid for their experience, what's the difference? Exactly what pilots got burned? Everyone else is still chugging along fine. If a fellow pilot needs to come over and make pay for his years of experience which would help support his family, then fine.


Because that money isn't free. It had to come from somewhere, and it didn't come out of the senior manager bonus budget, or the mini indy car budget...it came out of the pilot compensation budget, at the expense of other more senior pilots.

The policy doesn't even make a lot of sense to me, I think regional managers are confronted with an apparently insurmountable problem with long-term pilot recruiting and are trying to do anything at all just to appear to be doing something. IMO the money would be better spent on ab-initio style training programs...if the regionals pay for flight training, they can obligate the pilots to literally years of indentured service. Wealthy wannabe's might opt out to preserve their career flexibility, but many folks without means would jump on that.


Originally Posted by mdcny (Post 2424271)
We're all in this together.

You got that part right at least.

tomgoodman 09-03-2017 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by mdcny (Post 2424271)
As long you get paid what you should be, I wouldn't worry about other pilots' paychecks.

That may be fair, but human nature does not perceive it as fair. Some people argued that b-scale employees who knew the differential pay rates before taking the job should not object later...but they did object, and it was completely foreseeable. :(

WesternSkies 09-03-2017 08:54 AM

...we are all free-market capitalists until....

Blackwing 09-03-2017 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2424303)
Because that money isn't free. It had to come from somewhere, and it didn't come out of the senior manager bonus budget, or the mini indy car budget...it came out of the pilot compensation budget, at the expense of other more senior pilots.

It's at the expense of shareholders, not more senior pilots. The pilot group chose to leave that money on the table when they voted in the last TA, and thus it was no longer part of the pilot compensation budget.

amcnd 09-03-2017 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2424500)
It's at the expense of shareholders, not more senior pilots. The pilot group chose to leave that money on the table when they voted in the last TA, and thus it was no longer part of the pilot compensation budget.

That money will be used to buy 100 new aircraft....


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