Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2424303)

Because that money isn't free. It had to come from somewhere, and it didn't come out of the senior manager bonus budget, or the mini indy car budget...it came out of the pilot compensation budget, at the expense of other more senior pilots.

The policy doesn't even make a lot of sense to me, I think regional managers are confronted with an apparently insurmountable problem with long-term pilot recruiting and are trying to do anything at all just to appear to be doing something. IMO the money would be better spent on ab-initio style training programs...if the regionals pay for flight training, they can obligate the pilots to literally years of indentured service. Wealthy wannabe's might opt out to preserve their career flexibility, but many folks without means would jump on that.

Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2424500)

It's at the expense of shareholders, not more senior pilots. The pilot group chose to leave that money on the table when they voted in the last TA, and thus it was no longer part of the pilot compensation budget.

Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 2424651)

Considering it's SkyWest's fault that ASA kept getting wound down to nothing it's the absolute least they can do to compensate them for the travesty. I can't speak for any of the other carriers in the longevity arrangements. Of it makes you guys feel any better most people I know in the industry are going to Endeavor and Envoy anyway.

Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2424579)

Rickair is 100% correct!



Management is going to get their money and if they have to pay more to incoming employees they have to go to the bank for money. That bank is the current employees, through rates and work rules they get their money. I have noticed more and more a huge difference between our block and credit values. I recently flew a two day trip that had five legs and over an hour and half difference between block and credit.



There's your on tap bank money!

Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2425104)

No, he's not correct. The pilot group said, in essence, "you keep that money, we don't want it."

And until this pilot group grows some balls and votes to authorize a union that can actually say "no" to management we're going to continue to leave money on the table.

Originally Posted by Check Complete (Post 2424579)

Rickair is 100% correct!

Management is going to get their money and if they have to pay more to incoming employees they have to go to the bank for money. That bank is the current employees, through rates and work rules they get their money. I have noticed more and more a huge difference between our block and credit values. I recently flew a two day trip that had five legs and over an hour and half difference between block and credit.

There's your on tap bank money!

Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 2425157)

1%? No thanks. I'll make my own raise.

Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2425127)

Wait. Didn't you come from a union carrier with a big negative in the balls category?

Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 2425157)

Easy. Fly block. It can make the difference of $500-1000/month depending on how much you fly and what type of trips you fly.

1%? No thanks. I'll make my own raise.

BTW I'm not saying it's right for the company to pull this stuff. If only we had some type of legally binding protection to keep them honest...