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Old 09-19-2018, 02:31 PM   #1  
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Things are about to get interesting around here....OVER 6 years and our mechanics STILL don't have a contract. Unbelievable -- all the while SWA has done approx. 7 BILLION $ worth of pointless, counter-productive stock buybacks during that time frame.

Not feeling the LUV -- I'll be out in uniform picketing alongside my maintainers when the time comes. Hope to see many of my fellow pilots at their pickets whenever they announce them.
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Good for them. They deserve better.
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Things are about to get interesting around here....OVER 6 years and our mechanics STILL don't have a contract. Unbelievable -- all the while SWA has done approx. 7 BILLION $ worth of pointless, counter-productive stock buybacks during that time frame.

Not feeling the LUV -- I'll be out in uniform picketing alongside my maintainers when the time comes. Hope to see many of my fellow pilots at their pickets whenever they announce them.
What does this mean for Hawaii planning? Wasnít the ETOPS a big element in this?
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Good for them. They deserve better.
Yes. Well done. Itís great to see unity and vision thwart an otherwise underwhelming deal. I hope our pilot group has the sack to do it facing a bad offer. Hope it gets better from here for them.
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What does this mean for Hawaii planning? Wasnít the ETOPS a big element in this?
Word from the company mgt is that ETOPS (and LAX base) are completely decoupled from the MX contract. The official stance appears to be that SWA can proceed with ETOPS and LAX under the current contract, end of discussion.

I heard nearly the exact same wording from 3 separate executives.
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Word from the company mgt is that ETOPS (and LAX base) are completely decoupled from the MX contract. The official stance appears to be that SWA can proceed with ETOPS and LAX under the current contract, end of discussion.

I heard nearly the exact same wording from 3 separate executives.
Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.
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Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.
Shhh. The Max is silent.
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Yes. Well done. Itís great to see unity and vision thwart an otherwise underwhelming deal. I hope our pilot group has the sack to do it facing a bad offer. Hope it gets better from here for them.
I've been hoping for this pilot group to grow a collective sack for over 2 decades. Hasn't happened yet.
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Yep, and I heard the same type of story from SWA management that SWAPA pilots had to fly the 737 MAX even though that airplane was not listed in our CBA. They chose not to press to test the issue and signed TA2 with us before the first MAX arrived on property. Just because SWA management says it is one way doesn't mean that is factually correct not to mention morally or ethically correct.
They must've figured that since we caved on SL6 (the -800, not to mention 16 other concessionary SLs to an already concessionary contract), that the (Shhhhh!) M*x would be a shoe in.

80%+ of us agreed to, literally, PAY for the privilege of flying the -800 with SL6.

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I think part of the issue is the ETOPS service checks in the islands. AMFA want company mechanics to do them, of course and the company wants to farm them out.
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