Upgrade times in the future?
#15
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2015
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Upgrade predictions are just that...predictions. As potato chip already said, look for another M&A event in the not too distant future with the enevitable SLI that goes along with it, any upgrade predictions go right up in smoke. Just ask anyone who was here during WN/FL. Plan 10-12 year upgrades on AVERAGE over the next 10 years and I think you will probably be in the ballpark. And before anyone jumps my case about being negative, I’m actually trying to keep expectations realistic.
#16
On Reserve
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 23
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From: 737-FO
Outburst?? What? What I said was pretty simply stated.
There is some growth over the next few years, but there is also a lot of replacing old airframes. The net growth isn’t near as much as some other airlines. I’m certainly not saying it’s a bad place to be, as it is my dream job, but I’m realistic. As to having 1000 pilots blow you, congratulations! The airline is also very overstaffed. Overstaffed does not equal growth.
There is some growth over the next few years, but there is also a lot of replacing old airframes. The net growth isn’t near as much as some other airlines. I’m certainly not saying it’s a bad place to be, as it is my dream job, but I’m realistic. As to having 1000 pilots blow you, congratulations! The airline is also very overstaffed. Overstaffed does not equal growth.
#17
Layover Master
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,375
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From: Seated
Do you seriously have zero reading comprehension? I never stated I work at SWA, and actually CLEARLY stated my information was from the in-house career fair and other posts on this forum. I do, in fact, fly for Endeavor, not something I'm hiding. SWA is a career goal. Something else I've made abundantly clear.
Troll? Read my post history.
#18
On Reserve
Joined: Nov 2015
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Net gain of 142 aircraft over the next 5 years, I believe. Once we get through 500 or so upgrades in 2019 coupled with LAX and Hawaii finally starting, things should equalize somewhat. As for upgrade time? Who knows. 8-11 years is probably a safe bet.
#19
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: B737CA
OK, let's put this to rest already, APC style...
Time to hold ATL as an FO - 10 years.
Time to upgrade to Captain - 15 years (OAK) elsewhere it's 20-25 years.
Time to upgrade to ATL Captain - 35 years.

Time to hold ATL as an FO - 10 years.
Time to upgrade to Captain - 15 years (OAK) elsewhere it's 20-25 years.
Time to upgrade to ATL Captain - 35 years.

#20
FOs now hold Atl in much less than a year. 11/17 class was holding it in the early summer.
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