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Old 06-30-2019, 09:47 AM
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There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

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Old 06-30-2019, 10:25 AM
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There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina
First officers can submit up to three ďavoidance bidsĒ for captains they donít want to fly with. It doesnít mean you canít be assigned to fly with them on reserve or after a re-route, only that you wonít get the same line. Captains canít avoidance bid first officers. I have no idea if something exists for other employees but I doubt it.
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:57 AM
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Captains canít avoidance bid first officers.
No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:59 AM
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No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list
Only if you make it into the top three
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Old 06-30-2019, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by b2660493 View Post
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina
Common for most airlines. And most pros understand that if you are bad enough to fly with, we arenít flying with you no matter what policy is in place. Just saying.
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The ones on the list are proud to be there. Management knows.
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:21 PM
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I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g
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Old 06-30-2019, 07:29 PM
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I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g
This. I refuse to let some jerk dictate my schedule bc he hasnít figured out how to play nice with others.
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I donít think youíre supposed to be putting company ETOPS training material on the internet.
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I have one guy on my list. Yes he was that bad.


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