Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Southwest
LUV: "Can't Work With" List? >

LUV: "Can't Work With" List?

Search

Notices

LUV: "Can't Work With" List?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-30-2019 | 09:47 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
New Hire
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Default LUV: "Can't Work With" List?

There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 10:25 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 659
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by b2660493
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina
First officers can submit up to three “avoidance bids” for captains they don’t want to fly with. It doesn’t mean you can’t be assigned to fly with them on reserve or after a re-route, only that you won’t get the same line. Captains can’t avoidance bid first officers. I have no idea if something exists for other employees but I doubt it.
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 10:57 AM
  #3  
WHACKMASTER's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 288
From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Default

Originally Posted by Peacock
Captains can’t avoidance bid first officers.
No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 10:59 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 659
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
No, but you can always insist that the FO put you on their Avoidance Bid list
Only if you make it into the top three
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 12:02 PM
  #5  
at6d's Avatar
— No Relief On Scope —
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 4,586
Likes: 345
From: B737 Left Seat
Default

Originally Posted by b2660493
There's a rule on Southwest Airlines that permits pilots (and perhaps other staff) to list up to three other colleagues that they won't work with. Does anybody on this forum know the name of this rule? Where could I research more information on this?

Do other airlines have anything similar?

Thanks, -Nina
Common for most airlines. And most pros understand that if you are bad enough to fly with, we aren’t flying with you no matter what policy is in place. Just saying.
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 12:05 PM
  #6  
gipple's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
Default

The ones on the list are proud to be there. Management knows.
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 07:21 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekend Reserve
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,277
Likes: 274
From: B737CA
Default

I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 07:29 PM
  #8  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 52
Likes: 7
Default

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
I don't put anyone on my avoidance bid list. I'm not willing to sacrifice my quality of life, work or paycheck because someone is difficult to work with. I've been paired with high avoidance bid guys/gals, and we usually understand each other very well by the second leg of the trip. Helps to be direct and not passive-aggressive.

Some CRM pointers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds76VOSkm5g
This. I refuse to let some jerk dictate my schedule bc he hasn’t figured out how to play nice with others.
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 08:24 PM
  #9  
ROFF's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 460
Likes: 2
Default

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
I don’t think you’re supposed to be putting company ETOPS training material on the internet.
Reply
Old 06-30-2019 | 10:08 PM
  #10  
ZapBrannigan's Avatar
Furloughed Again?!
15 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,950
Likes: 110
From: Boeing 737
Default

I have one guy on my list. Yes he was that bad.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
deltabound
Foreign
18
03-28-2010 02:49 PM
tomderekc
Flight Schools and Training
25
11-14-2009 03:15 PM
seafeye
Regional
140
01-29-2009 06:24 AM
INAV8OR
Mergers and Acquisitions
66
05-15-2008 04:37 PM
Busboy
Cargo
110
09-18-2007 05:41 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices